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Title: FIAI AH-154 Panther Attack Helicopter
Description: Fox International Aerospace Industries


vossiej - January 25, 2009 12:38 AM (GMT)
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Remko - January 25, 2009 10:49 AM (GMT)
Interesting.

The original "Naval Apache" concept looks quite similar. Although that had the main landing gear replaced on the wings. Why I do not know, it doesn't seem like a more stable place.

Some improvement ideas.

-Remove the tail wheel somewhat further to the front, similar to the tailwheel of a Seahawk.
-Make it a more "naval helicopter", for example by including torpedoes to it's armament;
-Foldable rotor and tail is a must on a ship.

Other than that, perfect! B) B)

EDIT: Too aid in you design, these might be of help. Found them on another forum.

AH-64 SeaApache 1st proposal:

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AH-64 SeaApache 2nd proposal:

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AH-64 SeaApache 3rd proposal:

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Flying

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All three proposals shown together with their respective systems highlighted...

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Sorry to hijack your topic... :D

erik_t - January 25, 2009 05:19 PM (GMT)
What do you mean? Main gears out on the wing tips would probably double the track of the aircraft, making it much more stable on the ground.

vossiej - January 25, 2009 05:48 PM (GMT)
Well the Naval Apache is already in the bucket, as you can see they are as diffrent as a Eurocopter and a Mi-28 Havoc :P

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Don't forget it's a standard attack helicopter with sea-capabilities. So yes it can be equipped with anti-ship missiles etc but it is not designed for. (that's why it isn't in the Royal Netherlands navy air arm)

Remko - January 25, 2009 06:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (erik_t @ Jan 25 2009, 05:19 PM)
What do you mean? Main gears out on the wing tips would probably double the track of the aircraft, making it much more stable on the ground.

Yes, that's obvious of course, but the place of the landing gear seems to weak. If anything happens to the helo in flight, say the 'wings' are damaged by enemy fire, it can't properly land.

Remko - January 25, 2009 06:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (vossiej @ Jan 25 2009, 05:48 PM)
Well the Naval Apache is already in the bucket, as you can see they are as diffrent as a Eurocopter and a Mi-28 Havoc :P

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Don't forget it's a standard attack helicopter with sea-capabilities. So yes it can be equipped with anti-ship missiles etc but it is not designed for. (that's why it isn't in the Royal Netherlands navy air arm)

Hmm... Funny...

When I first saw the AH-154 Panther I could've sworn it was just an Apache, but now you have posted the 'regular' Sea Apache as a comparison, the difference between them is much more obvious. Oh well..

Still, cool design. Although you might consider doing another variant for dedicated Dutch Navy operations. Foldable tail and rotor, it could easily complement the Super Lynx Naval helo, and perhaps a European variant on the US LAMPS helo's.

Nice... Two of these babies on a LCF, doing anti-submarine warfare, pirate hunting or even anti shipping.

Just my two cents. :P B)

Man, I really start to learn how to draw these things myself... So many ideas.... :D :D




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