In this post i would like to hear your cases for, and against Instability. Should angels have it? Should it be a disadvantage to an upgrade? Is it Unfluffy?

Place all opinions here please.

I think its totally fair, and should only be used as a dis-ability. I'm just trying to think if we can alter the rules somewhat, so we aren't unbreakable. Hows about "If you fail the ld check by more than 3, you suffer wounds equal to the amount you failed the check by. No saves allowed."
---Baran

first that can not happen that is the undead's crumble rule with a few alternates and then angels would have to roll over 11
also whats instablity and if it's for eurithrial other worldy creatures then it's un fluffy because we were created from the seperall guy not creatures from another dimentions

That's basically what I said in another post. I agree with DA. Do not put instability into the list.

Whatever. Then I've been wrong about instability for a while (what is it?). DA/IST/Any other abbreviations that agree with them two that I forgot (WP?) are right.
---Baran

Alright. With instability. If you lose combat you test on your unmodified leadership. If you pass then you fail the whole unit dissapears. If you pass then you subtract what you lost by from your leadership, and the difference in your roll and what you failed by is how many wounds you take. If you still did not fail after modifiers, you lose none. And yes I am right :P .

So, if I'm a unit of demons, I lose combat, and have ld 8, and roll a 9, I'm dead. If I roll a 7, then 1 model dies (assuming 1 wound models)?
---Baran

Not necessarily. Let's say you are a deamon unit and you lose combat by 3. You have leadership 8 and roll a 9, then your whole unit goes poof. If you roll a 7 though, then you take your leadership of 8 and - the combat modifiers to make your leadership 5. Then the dif between 7 and 5 is 2 so that is the wounds you take.

Ok. So, another scenario. I have leadership 19. I lose combat by 12. I somehow fail my ld check. I go poof. Or I roll an 11. I lose 4 wounds. Gotcha. Check your pm's.
---Baran

Yes that is correct, and I checked my Pms now check yours.

I did, so check yours. And now I understand, and don't need to borrow a "friend's" Chaos book, or have to go down to a gw. *shivers*
---Baran

i still didin't get my questinen about instability what is it is it like the crumble rule for undead god i hate that rule

Read it now, DA.

that is terrable its worse than the crumble rule now why do we get instability?

Now, you're just threadjacking Baran, there is already a topic on this in the off topic section, keep it there.

ill add my vote to the arguement against instability, i dont like it. making the whole army unbreakable is a bad idea IMO.

I agree with that eviscerator. We don't want yet another unbreakable army out there, we also don't want to be copies of deamons so I guess so far almost everyone is against instability.

I don't want them to have instability. They aren't daemons. They are made from the old one's shards.

Well aren't you original WP :P . But, yes I agree WP on the issue of instability.