Title: Trl Please Read This
Description: i need ur help
me es guapo - January 19, 2007 04:45 PM (GMT)
i got a call from my unit today and they askd me if i will volunteer to go to iraq!!! what should i do? on one hand its tons of money and mad benifits when i get back and on the other hand it is the possibility of getting killed by october!!
its a life altering descision and i want input fromm all my friends before i make a final desicision.
i need to no by 3pm here(illinois usa)
Pixie Tales - January 19, 2007 05:12 PM (GMT)
FOLLOW YOUR HEART !!!!
that is all that is really Needed to be said... only you can really make the final decision.. Best Wishes..
It would be a huge Honor to Serve your Country
Jessi4805 - January 19, 2007 05:58 PM (GMT)
Well, I suppose getting asked to go instead of just "okay get your butt over there" is better atleast.
I do agree with pixie, you do really need to follow your heart and do what is in your best interest. It is a very difficult decision to make. May talk to some of your family and RL life friends and see if they have anything to say.
I wish you the best in what you decide. I hope you are safe over there if you do go.
U R A Lamer - January 19, 2007 06:11 PM (GMT)
Serve your country. The Honor will last a lifetime.
pound11 - January 19, 2007 06:49 PM (GMT)
Im sorry, but as far as im concerned i would be tempted to think your lieing .. if not you better not go to war because you will probably get your head shot off ... why are you even considering what people think you should do .. this is your decision and that of your family. . from what i understand you are fairly new to this clan and its ridiculus to think that you would go on the oppinions of people you barley know ... im not saying you dont have friends here .. its just a life altering decision and you take some time to make a silly post on a web site that will mean nothing to you within the next 2-3 months ( assuming you go to war).
I know it sounds mean and im sorry but it had to be said.
kaneo71 - January 19, 2007 07:30 PM (GMT)
Its up to u my friend...do wat u think is right!!! B)
lordcelery1 - January 19, 2007 08:28 PM (GMT)
its a hard choice...but like what pixie said...following your heart will lead you in the only and right dircetion of what u think is good
Useph1 - January 19, 2007 09:36 PM (GMT)
You're asking for an opinion, and everyone is saying do whatever you want to.
Here's my opinion. No. I strongly disagree with most wars, and especially THIS one. No I'm not a hippie, but that's just my opinion. I'm not going to go deeply into that. I would not go to Iraq. You would be in some country where nobody knows you, many despise you, and death is right around the corner. You may come home with honor, for serving your country, but is that really worth your life? Or your legs? Or your Hands? Living physically handicapped would be like a living hell for me. I don't know about you.
Final Statement:
I don't think America has any business in Iraq, Period.
me es guapo - January 19, 2007 10:31 PM (GMT)
thank u useph for answering the actuall question
so heres the deal i decided not to go.. but my unit is going in 2010 if i went now id go for 7 months if i wait i will go for 12 months.
i mean im going to get over there eventualy unless something drastic happens and out sorry excuse for a leader gets the hell outa there
00 SpeCiaL K 00 - January 19, 2007 11:04 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Useph1 @ Jan 19 2007, 09:36 PM) |
I don't think America has any business in Iraq, Period. |
Haha I think they should stay in iraq but not all over iraq...not the civil innocent places in iraq...If we leave the whole place then they prob will drop some shit on the US...they have over 50 nuclear facilitys in Iraq by now...
I Say Do What u want and just think for about it...think on the days that u can think on..
pound11 - January 20, 2007 12:42 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (me es guapo @ Jan 19 2007, 10:31 PM) |
| thank u useph for answering the actuall question |
.. thats a little bit rude everyone awnserd your question.. well more then just useph .. jeez its starting to look like you want attention you little brat ... that time i meant it to be rude everyone took the time to write you a little something and you come off all snotty.. jeez
Hello69kitty - January 20, 2007 12:45 AM (GMT)
If I had saw this post earlier, I would have said, don't go.
I wouldn't want to lose you. Even though we don't know each other all too well.
You're still a friend, nonetheless. A good one, I hope!
I disagree with the army.
I disagree with this countries decisions for war.
It's pointless. Honestly.
Useph1 is correct.
And I agree him whole heartedly.
But, I support your choice to have joined.
That's what friend's do. They're there for you. No matter what.
<3
Edal1 - January 20, 2007 12:49 AM (GMT)
Well.. quite frankly.. I say no. But then again that is 'cause I am against this war. XD! I mean, do what you believe is right mate.
me es guapo - January 20, 2007 12:52 AM (GMT)
srry didnt mean to be snotty :( i apologize i didnt mean to sound that way im just soo stressed out over this
Pixie Tales - January 20, 2007 01:27 AM (GMT)
i never knew you get told so far in advance... seems kinda odd... i thought when they say you go.. you go.. learn something new evey day..
and i sorta agree with pound... you asked us for our opinion if you should go.. well we are not you, we are not in your situation, we DID answer the best we could.. we said Follow your Heart.. sounded like an answer to me.. we cant tell you what you should or should not do..
i hate war.. i wish there was no such thing as war.. but that's never gonna happy.. there isn't anything we can do to change the fact that there is war.. but we still cant decide for you..
sorry we didnt give you what you wanted to hear
me es guapo - January 20, 2007 02:47 AM (GMT)
well if it was my unit then i wouldnt have a choice but ita another unit that needs my MOS specificaly. and pixey i said i was sorry a million times i was stressn majorly over that choice i really appreciate u guys and all u said and done for me!
Sirius_4 - January 20, 2007 03:23 AM (GMT)
Don't go... simple as that 7 months... thats 7 months I want to get to know you and same for everyone else... do everyone who cares about you and yourself a favor.
You could get killed or you could kill somebody... and thats no good =[
Useph1 - January 20, 2007 03:56 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (00 SpeCiaL K 00 @ Jan 19 2007, 06:04 PM) |
| Haha I think they should stay in iraq but not all over iraq...not the civil innocent places in iraq...If we leave the whole place then they prob will drop some shit on the US...they have over 50 nuclear facilitys in Iraq by now... |
If you stay in 1 part of Iraq you might as well not stay at all. The Iraqis Aren't Idiots. If America was centered in 1 part of that country then all opposition would just avoid that spot. What good would that do?
50 Nuclear facilities? Is that a guess? Do you know that the nuclear threat to America from Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and any other country harboring nuclear weapons in southern Asia is 10 times smaller than the threat from Russia? Yes the Cold War is over, but Russia has thousands of nuclear, biological, and chemical warheads sitting out in the middle of nowhere, unguarded. Think about that, then think about Iraq.
Pixie Tales - January 20, 2007 03:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (me es guapo @ Jan 19 2007, 09:47 PM) |
| well if it was my unit then i wouldnt have a choice but ita another unit that needs my MOS specificaly. and pixey i said i was sorry a million times i was stressn majorly over that choice i really appreciate u guys and all u said and done for me! |
oohhhh SP will have your Head for this one.... I am PIXIE she is PIXEY or SP so get Us straight.. she gets alitle upset when people get us two mixed up..
:P
Please don't think I was doubting you, cause I wasn't.. Since I have no experience in how the services work.. I just thought.. When they say you go.. well you go.. I didnt know they give you a choice... It is very interesting to me..
I know you apologized and Thank You for that... I didn't post just to get you to apologize more..
fluffy bunny
mcdohl - January 20, 2007 04:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (me es guapo @ Jan 20 2007, 02:47 AM) |
| well if it was my unit then i wouldnt have a choice but ita another unit that needs my MOS specificaly. and pixey i said i was sorry a million times i was stressn majorly over that choice i really appreciate u guys and all u said and done for me! |
IS THIS A JOKE?!?!?
Because if this a joke, I am not laughing :(
If it isn't a joke and you have chosen to go , then best luck to you!!
A few words advice:
Stay away from city centres (that’s where most violence are). Don't try to be nice with the civilians, even if there are just kids, stay away from the population and don't look in their eyes. Be vigilant at all times, strange cars, group of people etc...
Never let your guard down, sleep in day time and stay awake in night. In day time it is very hot and you will have difficulties to move. In evening the air is much colder you will be more alert.
Don't involve in guarding officials nor escorting them in cars, negotiate your post before you sign in anything, like you want to be at the camp as a guard ( guards at camps is a safer position). Even a suicide bomber will have difficulties to get through the check points between the road and your camp, so stay in the camp.
Take lots of books and a psp with a few rpg games, you will get very bored. never take your helmet and have always you gun with you at all time, make friends and built a strong friendship with one of them, so he can watch your back and you his, a soldier on its one is a died soldier.
If you didn’t go there, then good for you, there are other ways to serve your country than going in a useless war that costs many of the coalition soldiers to die.
This war started because Bush have strong ties with the Bin laden family and he
probably made a deal with them to not pursue their son (The Mr Bin Laden that organised 9/11) in the mountains of Afghanistan, and let them escape the blitz attack from US forces. The proof of this, is that there are now twice as more Talibans fighters than before and they use excellent fighting equipment to kill British and US soldiers posted there (where does the money come from? Probably his rich daddy or his brothers).
Bush has a oil company and there is no doubt that he probably made a few interesting deals with the Bin Laden family.
By using Iraq as a smoke screen he could concentrate all the hatred from the US population into one man Sadam Hussein. Sure he is a butcher and sure He needed a good kick butt, but
they should have let the UN deal with the guy, going solo with Britain was very foolish and dangerous.
However,
I support the solders there, it's not there fault, they just do their duty and I am proud of them.The guys a puke on are the greedy government officials that don’t give a radish if civilians and soldiers alike dies, as long as they secure oil and other business deals for their family business operations. In the case you guys didn’t know, the Bin laden family is the richest family in the Middle East they own a ¼ of all oil reserves in the world. They had over the years wasted trillions of dollars on US businesses, many US firms are partially owned by them
http://www.judicialwatch.org/1685.shtml.
Many people tend to forget that,
Bin Laden is just a spoil rat that decided for some reason to hide in the mountains with genuine fighting group.
I guess the only reason they followed this richy rich was that they knew he could ask daddy money or political support to fight the Russians.
And guess what, they did!!?!? Most of the training they have come from the CIA, no wander they manage so well to kill innocent civilians in the 9/11 attack.
This guy and his family should be hanging on a rope along with Sadam, at least Sadam had balls and died like a man,
the bin laden family they just run and hide to daddy http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=971322003.
For these reasons I don't support the war, but If you still go I will be supporting you and all your army buddies...just stay away from trouble, I hope that you will return safely.
pound11 - January 20, 2007 04:42 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Useph1 @ Jan 20 2007, 03:56 AM) |
If you stay in 1 part of Iraq you might as well not stay at all. The Iraqis Aren't Idiots. If America was centered in 1 part of that country then all opposition would just avoid that spot. What good would that do?
50 Nuclear facilities? Is that a guess? Do you know that the nuclear threat to America from Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and any other country harboring nuclear weapons in southern Asia is 10 times smaller than the threat from Russia? Yes the Cold War is over, but Russia has thousands of nuclear, biological, and chemical warheads sitting out in the middle of nowhere, unguarded. Think about that, then think about Iraq. |
Russia lol .. they mayu have the warheads but all that will do is give someone elese the ability to blkow up russia even more .. they cant launch their missels/warheads, they dont have the money to either buy what they need to launch them, and yes Iraq Is a huge threat to ... well fuck ameraca because bush deserves what he gets but canada ... they could change their attack to canada, whereas were still a huge trade assistance to america which would hurt amerca just as much as a direct attack.( mexico is taking our place though)... Iraq has a huge advantage over anybody ... They have nothing to loose and they know that .. so those russians are no threat at all, they have allot to loose they barley recoverd the last time they tried shit...
me es guapo- not a prob and im sorry for beeing so blunt before but you have to realise if you cant make a decision liek this on your own imagin how fucked up you will be if you go to Iraq and people are shooting at you ... trust your intincs ... anyone who cares about you will say dont go .. you need to make the decision ( which i realise you already have)... stress... you dont even know stress yet .. wait till you get over there .. not knowing when someones gonna attack.. and knowing you have noiweres to hide .. jeez.
Pixie Tales - January 20, 2007 04:44 PM (GMT)
umm Mcdohl... :nono: you didnt read...
he chose NOT to go Early... however, he will have to go in 2010.. unless by some chance.. the "war" is over before then...
mcdohl - January 20, 2007 06:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Pixie Tales @ Jan 20 2007, 04:44 PM) |
umm Mcdohl... :nono: you didnt read... he chose NOT to go Early... however, he will have to go in 2010.. unless by some chance.. the "war" is over before then... |
yea i just realised it too, anyway, my speach still goes for anyone joining the war though.
Pixie Tales - January 20, 2007 07:11 PM (GMT)
:P
fluffy bunny :pinkelefant fluffy bunny
me es guapo - January 20, 2007 09:19 PM (GMT)
wow i didnt expect so much support from u guys thanx a million! (pixIE)
i got a call last night at 4 am that made me feel alot better :) she probably doesnt even realise it but she helped me sleep easier just by talkn to me...wow i wen
me es guapo - January 20, 2007 09:21 PM (GMT)
wow i didnt expect so much support from u guys thanx a million! (pixIE)
i got a call last night at 4 am that made me feel alot better :) she probably doesnt even realise it but she helped me sleep easier just by talkn to me...wow i went way off topic...anyway thanks or all the support.
Useph1 - January 21, 2007 05:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (pound11 @ Jan 20 2007, 11:42 AM) |
| QUOTE (Useph1 @ Jan 20 2007, 03:56 AM) | If you stay in 1 part of Iraq you might as well not stay at all. The Iraqis Aren't Idiots. If America was centered in 1 part of that country then all opposition would just avoid that spot. What good would that do?
50 Nuclear facilities? Is that a guess? Do you know that the nuclear threat to America from Iraq, Iran, North Korea, and any other country harboring nuclear weapons in southern Asia is 10 times smaller than the threat from Russia? Yes the Cold War is over, but Russia has thousands of nuclear, biological, and chemical warheads sitting out in the middle of nowhere, unguarded. Think about that, then think about Iraq. |
Russia lol .. they mayu have the warheads but all that will do is give someone elese the ability to blkow up russia even more .. they cant launch their missels/warheads, they dont have the money to either buy what they need to launch them, and yes Iraq Is a huge threat to ... well fuck ameraca because bush deserves what he gets but canada ... they could change their attack to canada, whereas were still a huge trade assistance to america which would hurt amerca just as much as a direct attack.( mexico is taking our place though)... Iraq has a huge advantage over anybody ... They have nothing to loose and they know that .. so those russians are no threat at all, they have allot to loose they barley recoverd the last time they tried shit...
me es guapo- not a prob and im sorry for beeing so blunt before but you have to realise if you cant make a decision liek this on your own imagin how fucked up you will be if you go to Iraq and people are shooting at you ... trust your intincs ... anyone who cares about you will say dont go .. you need to make the decision ( which i realise you already have)... stress... you dont even know stress yet .. wait till you get over there .. not knowing when someones gonna attack.. and knowing you have noiweres to hide .. jeez.
|
The Russian stockpile is basically free samples of weapons of mass destruction to anyone who wants to drive up there and take a few. And yes, Russia has the capability to launch nuclear weapons, not all, but enough to destroy America.
Bush deserves what he gets? What about all the people that would die? Just because our leader is an idiot, does that mean everyone should suffer? Chances are, he would survive a nuclear attack sitting in some bunker somewhere in Wyoming, while all the people in D.C. get vaporized, infected, radiated, or killed.
pound11 - January 21, 2007 07:23 PM (GMT)
we will see in the next election if they re elect bush ... its there own stupid fault, I know its impossible to pull out now that would be even worse then going in in the first place .. but I know there are better leaders the nbush and he just keeps digging a hole .. so we will see if tyhe peopel of US deserve to get bombed to .. pfft .. bush a leader i dont even know why i said that .. his father was a leader .. hes more of a coward id say.
So they can launch .. 10 warheads ... by the time there in the air they will be blown up and russia will be destroyed they have old warheads the sattes and other places have new ones .. first attack their attack then go for their source ... theres so many radars around US that the only people that could possibly launch a warhead without everybody knowing would be China/US.. and possibly Korea because they tend to find the latest in everything.
Milk Man2828 - January 21, 2007 07:32 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| we will see in the next election if they re elect bush |
He cant be reallected. This is his second term.
| QUOTE |
| hes more of a coward id say. |
Yet you people say we should cut and run out of Iraq?
| QUOTE |
| So they can launch .. 10 warheads ... |
You make it seem like they have their finger on the button now.
pound11 - January 21, 2007 08:49 PM (GMT)
Milkman if you took the time to read everything i said nothing like that the only true statment you said was your first quote other then that you have your facts fucked up.
Guitar God11 - January 22, 2007 01:24 AM (GMT)
Absolutley do it dude. If I was old enough I'd be right there beside you man. It's a really good honor, and weed is legal there.
mcdohl - January 22, 2007 06:18 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Guitar God11 @ Jan 22 2007, 01:24 AM) |
| Absolutley do it dude. If I was old enough I'd be right there beside you man. It's a really good honor, and weed is legal there. |
It's true for the weed but alchol is in most places banned. Also to get your weed you must know some civilans, and there are risks that they abduct you and you become a hostage and maybe be excuted - all that for what?? To smoke freely some weed?!?? I never heard of someone died because of weed, but i guess that it must happen soon or later :DAWN: .
Moreover, army bases follow US laws and if you get cought smoking pot you will get court martialed and then send to prison. :(
They don't joke with kind of stuff, so thats mean if you had to go there you will probably finish not smoking weed and drink alchool for the rest of your service there...and more importantly you could get killed :S.
This makes you think twice before playing the heros in the army.