Title: When I post...
Tan-Tan - January 2, 2008 02:47 PM (GMT)
It has to be long - EE seemed like he's obliged to make long posts, and I think others too. EE's a very good RPer...HE'S YOUNGER THAN ME >=[
Short posts normally - there's nothing wrong here. When I play some characters, my tendency would really be short. Take Hugo for example, though none of you would know him but he's the one I use in Pokèmon Crusade. He's not exactly the thinking type. He's a fast thinker so he doesn't elaborate in his thoughts. He express himself more with his words, so sometimes short posts are normal. If you look at Joshua Wind here though, he's obviously the opposite so long posts are very normal. Nothing to brag about.
I type depending how my finger does it: long or short - this is popular, and I'm kind of this type most of the time. In my replies, it's never short actually. It's longer than being said to be short at least. I guess my fingers just move that way. Especially during battles. It seemed to be what I'm good at. I also noticed it in my updates, although it's not detailed, it's long already.
I like doing shorter posts. Can't think of how to make it long - writer's block, or incompetency of the updater or the member. So far, I haven't seen this to anyone active in OZ, only one or two in the long past. Still, it's nothing to be ashamed of. I don't know why though, and cannot understand why.
I always feel unsatisfied, long or short - there are those who's not confident in their posts, as if they miss something so they reread it, or sometimes to shameful to reread it. They also sometimes refuse to post their reply.
It doesn't matter for me -
Gill Fontaine - January 2, 2008 02:55 PM (GMT)
I'm kinda torn between the first and third (which I eventually chose) options. Generally, I really like my posts to be long. Probably some misconception about longer posts inherently being better posts, which isn't true. A very wise someone once said that if all you type is crap, then a long post is nothing but a very long bunch of crap (or something like that). It's not better for it.
So I went with the third option, which is kinda true. Generally, my standard is to write more than whoever last updated me. That's the usual standard by which I measure myself. Depending on what's going on (narrative, battle, exploration) that may not be feasible, but I still try.
And if all else fails, I write long. Just in case.
Holly Wolgon - January 2, 2008 03:36 PM (GMT)
I went with the third option too, though "short" and "long" probably differs from person to person. Alot of the times, I'll write out a reply, walk away, think about it over a period of time, think of something to add, add it, and so on and so forth. So it'll get longer and longer, even though my first post might have been short.
But also, the way I rp, its alot of "stream of conciousness", which normally makes it longer haha. So my posts tend to go the "long" route, if only because of that.
Ice Cold Glalie - January 2, 2008 04:12 PM (GMT)
It doesn't really matter for me, as long as I get what I want to say in the post, the length of it isn't what I think of.
DarkRiku435 - January 2, 2008 07:07 PM (GMT)
I'm between the 3rd and 4th option.
I usually try to fit everything I can into a post, but if it's just not enough to base my reply on... My posts aren't all that great.
Personally, I don't think my posts are good at all but thats normal for a commission artist. I've had writer's block for the past 4 months or so, even though no one usually notices x3
But I do like being able to type long replies, as it helps with learning how to write more details that usual.
Luigi - January 3, 2008 12:16 AM (GMT)
It doesn't matter, for me the length fo the post is determined by what I wish to state. And by how much I want to show my character's emotions. I usually like to post long though, because it gives more depth into it. If i'm tired, though, I have a tendancy not to post as long as I usually do.
Kirbop - January 3, 2008 01:26 AM (GMT)
Sadly, I'm one of those people who end up with long posts for almost all of my posts; the shortest ones I've done are about a paragraph or so, and they're short only because I typed up just a reaction to the mod and maybe a few minor thoughts. My old Jinari posts were like that, but in virtually every other RPG, I type out my character's reactions and thoughts on the entire update. I suppose you could say I'm rewriting the update from my character's point-of-view, but that make it sound like I write long posts for brownie points. >_>
In reality, I go in-depth for the sake of my character and some peculiar urge to just ramble and touch down on every part of a post, sorta like what I'm doing now. I like to think including so much detail helps me RP and develop a character better, which I think helps with my dream, but I suppose it's the fact that I feel obliged to make long posts that I don't RP as much (read: don't RP at all) anymore. If I suddenly broke off from the usual "type out reactions and thoughts on the entire thing then just type out a final reaction" and my usually long posts became short, then there'd be this strange break in the pattern of my journey. I happen to be annoyed by those things and...there you have it.
End ramble, haha. Although I kinda regret voting the first; seems like I'm the only one who's obsessed about stuffing as much detail as possible.
Kari - January 3, 2008 11:09 AM (GMT)
*A shorter version can be found below this wall of text*
Anyone that read my journey will know that I'm the kind that types SUPER long, if only to fulfill some sort of 'achievement' in that particular reply. Indeed, I must agree that I'm the kind that types a lot of stuff. Which has proven, and may still prove to be a detriment to my studies simply because the time taken for me to type long posts is taken from the time I have to study. Not like I'm doing too badly, but RPing takes quite a long out of me.
And thus, anyone that knows me and my RPing style well enough will either superficially assume that I'll pick option 1, or think a little deeper and assume that I'd pick option 5. Strangely, option 1's out of my consideration despite the fact that I'm probably the longest writer (quality of post is another story) here. Torn between option 3 and 5, I finally decided on the popular choice, the third option.
Why? Well, contrary to my previous journey (only a few like tanz and Satoshi will get to remember it), I have decided that every reply has a purpose to fulfill, and something to tell. Writing long IS simple. Describe the place as best as you can, using tons of literary techniques, metaphors and the thesaurus to describe the place, THEN start RPing. I guarantee a word count of 300+ and above if you do this method, and have a good enough vocab to support this.
And yet, RPing with Hikari (my previous character) opened my eyes to RP-ing. RPing isn't about typing long replies and beautiful descriptions; it's about replying in the eyes of the character. I grasped that rather quickly, but fell into the deeper trap of repitition. My journey was fraught with confusion and stuff (even though she's a lot simpler than, say, Claes) because I couldn't control my flow. Hikari began to think and think and think, but not a lot actually happened. (100 words about the current situation, 400+ words about how to tackle the situation/ come up with a strategy, and 150+ words to deal with the scene again, like commanding and execution.) There was a stark imbalance in the journey, but what really broke Hikari was my confusion about her character. In the end, Satoshi and I decided to drop the combined journey and create new characters, with Satoshi wanting to try out new stuff and me with my ambition of creating something that I can *actually* RP about.
Thus, Claes is born. Initially, I was a little skeptical about Claes because I wasn't sure if I was good enough to control her, and Chiyo had a similar character anyway. (which I found out later, during one of my prowling sessions in the Profile section) Nevertheless, I tried and decided that hey, Claes isn't *that* boring either, if I RP her correctly. She's actually quite fun to use, provided that I don't go OOP. Going OOP in RPing is hard anyway, so I decided to stick with her.
My current style? Using Claes made me realise one thing; there's too much to RP about her. One flaw about my characters: in an attempt to impress the mods in any new site, I try to put a not-so-common history in my characters and evaluate upon her(yes, all my characters are females, strangely) personality. Appearance is always one of my weak spots, but injecting personality makes the character 3D. And since I have a lot to RP, I guess I wouldn't run out of ideas too easily.
The only solution that I have to this is: focus on one aspect of her at a time. Enemy approaching? She's brave enough to handle, but even human emotions have a hold on her sometimes. Ready to forgive, but rational enough to know when to end it all. During travels? Maybe a little wary of things, careful enough not to be duped but not too skeptical when listening to someone. Everything has a balance, and every character has a stand, even if it's neutral. Knowing your character thoroughly is just as hard for the creator as it is for the reader.
Think I RP well? Horrified at my illogical and wasted journey? Please do tell me. Despite being capable of write long and logically (I think), there's still a lot for me to learn in terms of RPing. Kirbop gets into character a billion times better than me, and I admire Luigi's style of injecting humor with Marlicius (pardon me for the spelling) and Dimitri. Holly's interaction with her Bagon is awesome, and there are so many other journeys that I had skimmed through but never the time to go over them properly.
Nevertheless, I'll go on despite the difficulty I face in finding time to update others or even myself. (Writer's block OFTEN haunt the mods, especially me.) Even now, I don't know why I'm ranting so much about my character... maybe it's evidence to me that I'm moving as a RP-er, if ever so slightly, or it's just to clarify my style of writing. (many people seem to think that I cram words.) Or maybe, it's because I'm too lazy to update/lack the courage to post in Absences. Whatever the case, I think I have ranted enough about nonsense. Let me end this rubbish. XD
*SAFE TO START READING FROM HERE XD*
To summarise, I just want to say that I do not intend to spam and spam to increase my word count. I always have a point to bring across about Claes in every reply, but whether it is successful or not is another totally issue altogether. I guess it reflects badly on me as a RPer if people think I crap for the sake of crapping. Nevertheless, tell me and I'll try to change. I always hold this quote close to my heart, and all long posters should too.
(NOT EXACT) QUOTE BY TANZ:
| QUOTE |
| When your words carry twice of its intended weight, or if you can write out the same things with half the word count of the original message, you'll know that you've improved as a RPer. |
This'll probably the the last wall of text I write build before going relatively inactive.
-Kari
[P.S: I don't know why I'm ranting this badly. This wall of text is probably inspired by my English teacher, but meh. Blame me if you wish, but I just suddenly felt like writing about Claes, in Kari's POV.]
[P.S.S: On a totally unrelated note, my English teacher's awesome <3]
Selia - January 3, 2008 04:38 PM (GMT)
It realy depends. Some days my mind is tired and I've an hard time making more of four sentences, sometimes my muse is hyperactive and I can get to two or more pharagraps (this is quite rare, however XD).
Anyway, usually my fingers decide it, and the post is always around one pharagrap long. I try to not overdue it if I feel there's nothing more to say just for the sake of having an high words count, because it's then than the post starts to became crappy. And I've not that much time to dedicate to the computer most of the time, so I can fuss over 20 more or less words every time.
Usually, I tend to re-read the post once or twice to rephrase some passages and add a sentence or two to make things things clear, but mainly it's what I felt to write at 'first sight' that appears on the site ^^
Eeveefreak - January 3, 2008 05:26 PM (GMT)
Hmm. This is a hard one to answer for me. *ponders* For me, it's something of a hard call between 1, 3 and 6. I don't like short posts, but that's because of my (likely) eternally vague thought of trying to become an author. If I can't write at least two paragraphs in response to things, I feel that I'm not trying hard enough. However, I'm not sure what's considered long. As many people say, long varies from person to person.
For me, I generally don't feel satisfied with an RP post unless I have somewhere along the minimum of 100+ words in it. Generally speaking, I get more along the lines of 300-400 on average. I actually have a hard time going higher, but that doesn't actually bother me, so if that's not considered long, well, I guess I don't do long posts really.
However, I do feel that writing something that's merely a paragraph long is really not worthy of posting, so thus I can't nercessarily say it doesn't matter to me...even though it doesn't matter the length so long as it's beyond a point. *frowns* Sometimes putting one's thoughts into words is hard to do. Gotta try to figure out how to say this better.
I guess I'm gonna choose three (like most people) in the end, because, while I do have a minimum I insist upon, I also don't feel it necessary to worry about the actual length beyond that, so long as it says everything that I feel necessary to say. The minimum is almost as much so that I make sure to give the person who mods it afterwards something to work with as that I feel that I'm not trying hard enough if I don't get that much. It's really not that hard to write a hundred or two hundred words in a post if you give it a little effort.
At least, it's not for me.
EternalEbony - January 13, 2008 03:10 AM (GMT)
EE's a girl, actually. But anyways, yeah. Either first or fifth option. My RPing posts must be long. Mainly because I'm determined that I want to be an author some day and am trying to force myself to improve my skills or something. *Shrug* I dunno, really. I try to get at least 1000 words per post- Otherwise, I get irritated at myself, usually. Again, dunno why. I think I'm just paranoid about my skill decreasing, or something like that. But skill =/= post length. My RPing's actually not that great, if you look at it one sentence at a time.
Tarkya - January 18, 2008 04:30 PM (GMT)
My posts tend to go all over the place, although they're usually of moderate size. I like to do longer posts if I can, although I try not to ramble on too much unless the situation calls for it. I started roleplaying on Neopets, where you had a 300 character limit; some people would just make multiple posts, but I learned how to compress a lot of information into a small space from that, and it carries on to other things. It's changing since I've been on OZ, though.
In general, normally I'll go around the 150-250 word range. In times where what my character does has a large effect [such as when being chased by murderous Pokèmon] the size'll go up. During times such as battles and talking to people, when I have to wait for feedback, I either keep them concise, or ramble on with my character's thoughts.
Tan-Tan - January 27, 2008 09:04 AM (GMT)
EE@ Oh, sorry ><;
Kari@ Wow xD And I was even quoted, but that line is much sexier. Though I don't remember saying that because that line is too wise for me xD I'm flattered though, very. And we love wall of text. Kirbop likes doing it XD Peace~
Since everyone was really awesome in this thread and made me smile (not the creepy smile =/) I'll reward everyone $100 MP. OH MY GOLLY WOW. Yea, it's really nice to have me smiling once in a while *face breaks*
Topic closed!
EDIT: I just noticed Vee has 4, 000 golly wow MP o__o
EDIT2: Never mind, it's 5, 000 (4, 900+) o_O Am I being too kind recently...? *ponders on kindness*