I just wanted to throw this out there. Is it just me or does it seem like the website is never getting updated each week. So far this Winter season it seems like i have only seen it updated maybe 2 or 3 times from the prior week. I understand that it is probably is a big task to due b/c there are a lot of teams and divisions, but what do we pay dues for? I was under the impression (Please correct me if I'm wrong), that the website is updated every Saturday. If I am forgetting something I apologize but a lot of people like to know where they stand week in and week out. If we cant change the speed of it, maybe send out an update or keep us informed that hey it won't be updated for a week or two. It just comes across as sloppy organization.

We do have someone new doing the web updates, it gets updated on Mondays after I send out the standings. It has been being updated on time, with the exception of week 4 & 5 when I was in Florida and the standings did not get updated. When I email the standings, I do try to put when the office will be closed.
The tournaments are all upto date, as are the forms pages and tournament results pages. You can also go to the web-page and sign up to have the standings emailed to you, I get them done and emailed out on Monday.
Thanks

What do we pay dues for?
Are you kidding you really don’t know? The LEDA is non-profit all money collected is given back to the members in the form of payouts, banquets, picnics, tournaments, prizes, and plaques, with the exception of the cost of running the office and the office manager no one else is paid all are volunteers.
Everyone is quick to criticize and complain but get them to step up and do something is another story.
If you don’t like how things are; volunteer, I know the LEDA is always looking for good help.

OMG! Please tell me you didn't.

The website has ALWAYS been updated on MONDAYS...not Saturdays.

If you signup for email notifications you will get the standings every Monday and are as up to date as they can be. This being said PLEASE remember that there are teams out there who DO NOT mail in their sheets.

If you are unhappy with the way the club is run then I suggest you get off your butt and do something to help it become better. Of course, I really don't see this happening since everyone bitches but NO ONE wants to do anything about it to help out.

I sat on the Board for 12 to 14 years (you loose track after that long) and I worked my butt off to make the club better. The one thing that agravated me more than anything were those that bitched but sat on their butts and did nothing.

Dianna works her butt of and so do all the Board members with very little thanks from the membership. I for one thank them for their hard work and MANY hours of free time lost to those who take it all forgranted!

Linda Yeager
yeagermiester@oh.rr.com

You can criticize me all you want but there are more people out there that have the same feeling as me when the site is not updated from the prior week, I have heard it from other teams throughout the weeks. There were more than just two weeks that wern't updated and I am not counting teams that do not turn in their sheets. So I was wrong about the Saturday updating, now I understand it is to happen on Monday's. I am not bitching I'm just stating a fact. I don't care if nothing changes from this I just thought that it should be known that some people are unhappy when the web-site is not up to date on a weekly basis. If you would rather have it that no one states their opinion on any matter in this leauge than what is this site for? Isn't that the title of this thread "Questions, Comments and Concerns?"

We do want opinions and comments to make it better, Since we changed Web managers about 7 weeks ago, it has been updated on time. With the exception of week 4 and 5 and that was my fault, I was in Florida so the standings were not updated. Prior to 7 weeks ago, yes there were gaps in getting it updated, due to the person that was doing it, was a volenteer and was out of town on business alot so he did it when he could. Since we have someone new it is updated on time.

But every office and committee member are volenteers, all the tournaments that have easels set up , someone puts them up and takes them down. All the people that help at the banquet and the picnic are volenteers.

Once again we do want opinions and comments, not everyone is going to have the same opinion, as seen in this forum. Stinger is correct in where the money goes.

Thanks

Ok..no one said you weren't entitled to your opinion. But give me a break! For YEARS, we gave out the information booklet with each new season. Very few ever read it.

It is available on the web site and is indeed current. It gives you all the information you are requesting.

Now as for the website being updated.

Dianna, let's call a spade, a spade here, huh?
Now, unless things changed (and I doubt they did) Steve Kelsey (our current president) has been updating the web page since it was posted in my first term or just before I took office. Now I understand that he has a family to support but I think it's time that those who run for office take a REAL HARD look at what they are getting themselves into BEFORE they put their name in the hat.
Through the grapevine, I hear that Phil Calderone (our current 1st VP and a candidate for PRESIDENT) has taken over updating the site. This is EXACTLY why I stated in another forum section that people should vote for him!!! He steps up and does what's needed for this club.

This kind of falls under the idea that a late night sports talk show host always states when a caller complains about the coach of his/her favorite team and wants them fired. He always comes back with, "Who do want that will do a better job?"

Generally, they don't have an answer, they're just ranting because apparently their team should be undefeated 4 months into the season.

The common response that board members seem to have to many complaints is, "Then volunteer." I would have a difficult time accepting that answer. I know first hand that nothing gets done on its own, and all help is appreciated, but to quote the super hero to the sidekick, "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it." Criticism is a part of the job. Sometimes it's thankless, and many times it seems to go unappreciated, but that's a part of it, too. Volunteers are the offensive linemen, middle relievers, defender/rebounder, or defensive forward of our league.

At the same time, I think volunteering is not just limited to labor, but also ideas. That's the other idea behind this website. You don't like how the website's being updated, great. Any ideas on how to improve it? Don't tell me to just volunteer. Maybe I'm inept at working on a computer (I'm not, but some people are). I know the suggestion was made to get someone else who could update it more often a while ago. It took some time, and now we have someone. Amazing how the concept works. It's not always going to happen overnight, but it's definitely not going to happen if the idea isn't presented to begin with.

Suggestions can be made on this forum, and they can also be made at the board meetings. Attend these meetings. They are for our club. I use to attend until my job situation prevented it. I personally feel that the meetings' time and dates should be on the home page of the web site. It should be in the captains folder. I know that no one else attends, but why is that? We have never tried to find out (or at least I have never heard of any such research). I have always felt that the biggest reason is because most people see it as Wednesdays only, but that's just my opinion, and I have no hard evidence to support that. It's something to look into, though.

I just wanted to thank everyone for your comments, posts and suggestions to this matter. My point here was not to make anyone mad or make anyone feel unappreciated. I just wanted some clarification and some insight to this matter that myself and other people had. Everything that is said and done here in the grand scheme of things is to make the league better and I think we are achieving that. :)

I think LEDA does a very good job at updating the standings and top darter points. I get the weekly standings by email on time every week. I would like to see the Trails points updated a little more frequently though.

I do see where bjacobs79 is coming from. I don't think he is saying the website is not updated. I think he is saying the standings are not always current. There seems to be no problem with tourneys being posted. Problem is, many darters don't attend these. They want the basics about league play.

Many do not have access to a pc for e-mails. Many don't like the hassle. Many want a hard copy mailed to them to take for league on Wednesday. Something they can show their team mates in black and white or in some cases to spill beer on. Darters are darters. Many just want to go out a night a week and have fun.

Sorry to disagree with you Linda. At one time the office was open every Saturday. You should know this. This was when standing sheets were complied and mailed out. The office was open to make sure score sheets were in on time, to accept phone calls with any concerns and to just be there if a member needed anything.
Saturday used to be the busiest day at the office.

This Monday thing did not happen when I was office manager. Monday was my day off. I also stayed many evenings later than I could have, not because I wanted to, because the league needed longer hours to accomodate the members. To me this is what the club is about, the members.

I agree, Trails should be updated more often. I used to do this every Saturday. At that time the Trails director appreciated this. Now it gets done every three months or so.

I do think information booklets should be given out at every Captain's meetings as in the past and available in the office. I disagree members should have to access it on line.

As I remember (from the past) the dues paid by each member did include charges for weekly standings being mailed, the printing of information handbook, trails info being mailed, the office managers wages, misc being mailed to captains, the folders and info for the captains meetings, toner and paper for the office printer. Plus the extras mailed for trails and misc to players, Captains and bars. The postage to be able to mail all of this, the cost of internet. And of course, paying for the price for a copy machine, its toner, and paper which may or not be rarely used.

If I was a member, which I am not. I would question where the money you pay is going. It now seems to be a paperless office. There should be a surplus of money someplace.

I would also question Phil Calderone running for President. It used to be the President of the club had the power to hire, fire or give increases in wages of the office manager. His wife is the office manager.

At one time the treasurer did post on the web site the financial standings of the club.
You as members can go to the office and look over the books. Or request it be on the web site. You as members have more power than you know.
Without you, there is no Club. Don't be afraid to go to a meeting and really hear what goes on. That is of course if it is not cancelled. I guess you will have to call the office to find this out.

I don't believe anyone should be able to access the clubs record from another location. I don't know if this is being done. JMHO on this.

If anyone has concerns you can post here or e-mail me at cheeta1x@msn.com. I was the previous office manager before I was fired. Maybe some of you remember me, Debbie.
I don't things are being run as the should be, plain and simple.
Maybe time for a change.

I don't have any real problems about how the office is being run at all. Any surplus of money that we get goes back to the members. Part of the reason most everything is done electronically was to help cut back on the increasing costs of the banquet, picnic, tournaments, and other expenses. I remember these discussions in the board meetings.

I am finding that the idea of people needing a hard copy mailed to them is becoming less and less of an issue. More and more people are getting internet access, which is a sign of the times. It's becoming more of a necessity than a luxury. You will have your old-school people in every walk of life, but eventually, they will have to change with the times as well.

I can understand the concern of recommending Phil for office, because there can seem to be a confict of interests, but then again this club was started by a man and his wife. Wouldn't there have been a conflict of interest there? I don't believe that the other board members would just allow the money to be tossed around in the ways suggested.

Outside of the Trails points not being updated often enough, the office does a good job of getting information out. I have made some strange requests, and they always take care of what I need.

I've been a member since 1999, and frankly, Debbie, I don't remember you. Sorry. The office has been very well organized since Dianna took over, and I don't think any change in personell is necessary.

I remember you Debbie, why was it you got fired? Was it because you did your job? I remember when you were in there as office manager I would call the office and never get a call back, trails points were never updated. You were so bad at your job I almost quite the league, because I could never get in touch with you.

Are you kidding or what? You said your not a member so how do you know what is going on in that office at all.

And as a non-member why do you care?

Just stirring up trouble I guess?

Stinger

Almost sorry I posted.
It was not my intent to stir up anything. I just replied to have a say.
I never said Dianna (sorry if misspelled) was not doing a great job.
Stinger, if you did in fact call the office and leave a message I would have gotten back with you. I often checked the voice mails from home when I was not in the office so you are making up what you say. You could be confusing me with others that ran the office after I was not there. I think there were 4 after me before Dianna. My run ended late in 2000.

Good luck to the league in everything.
I won't post anymore as it seems to cause problems.

Debbie I certainly don’t think you should stop posting to this forum just because I or anyone else doesn’t agree with what you are saying. You have every right to express yourself.
I just disagree with your posting and I don’t think you really know what is going on in the league these day’s.
I agree that there should not be any conflict of interest in any Board position and the office manager, and I believe the current Board is working on the bylaws to insure that there will be no conflicts.

Stinger

To address some of the above issues,
When the standings are posted, they are current as is the top darter. If there are scores missing it is due to the fact that I have not received the score sheet. There are currently 37 sheets that have not been turned in.

We have 128 teams this season, there are only 30 that get the hard copy mailed to them, the rest have email adresses. They are emailed out Monday Mornings.
There are also around 250 members that have requested email standings, they also receive those on Monday Morning.

As for the office being closed on Saturdays, it was no longer cost effective to have someone in the office. When I started here 5 years ago, I would go to the post office and pick up the mail at 7:30am. Standing were done by 10:00am, so people would come in and pick up standings. Over the last 5 years, with the increased amount of people getting the standings emailed to them, very few people would stop on Saturdays. Changes made at the Post Office, due to 911 factors and them offering early retirement and the mail being routed to Cleveland to be sorted then back to Mentor, I was not able to pick up the mail that early anymore and it got to the point that I would sit here and get a few score sheets if the mail ran at all. I also was off on Monday's and started working them to get the standings done. There is a slot on the outside of the bldg. that score sheets can be dropped in.
I am here late 2 nights a week and anytime someone has called and said, I can not make it by closing time, I have stayed or worked something out with them.

Informations booklets are given out to all new captains, I always take extra to the captains meeting and announce that anyone that wants one can take it. They are always in the office in anyone needs one. If there are changes made to the rule book, then every captain gets a new one. I do not see any need to use the extra paper, toner or time to give out rule books that do not change. We are non-profit even saving the 5 reams of paper, toner and the price per copy on the copy machine a season helps.

The money for the club is very well documented. The tresurer has a report at every board meeting as to what is spent the past month and the total amounts that are in all 3 accounts. The meetings are open and members are encourged to attend. As for the comment of the meeting being cancelled, in the five years that have I been here, the meeting was postponed once and it was cancelled one time last year, I was in the hospital and due to work commitments other board members were unable to attend. The line about calling the office if you are going to attend a meeting that is on the web-page. Was put there because it is easier for one or two people that maybe thinking of attending to call the office, than it is for me to contact every member (Which would be impossible).

As for Phil running for President, yes he is my husband. But that is at home, anyone that has been to a board meeting or at scheduling know that we do not take sides just because we are married and we both have our own opinions about things. There are steps being taken to make changes for a conflict of interest.
Not only for the Presidents postion, but the others as well. Even now with Phil as 1st Vice he is not involved in my reviews and/or increases. IF he is the president I would report to the 1st Vice.

I do not know where the access club records from another location comes from, that is not being done. Someone is feeding you the wrong information.

I hope that answered some of the questions or corrected some of the comments from earlier post. Any questions please call the office.

Thanks and Sorry for the long winded post.

Well, well, well...as per usual, Debbie appears out of the woodwork to voice her opinion when she doesn't know what is going on yet again...LMAO!

I will agree that you are entitled to your opinion but it again carries no weight as you are NOT a member and haven't been for the last 7 years. And you have NO CLUE as to how the office is run now or in the past. You were fired from your postion due to an unprofessional work ethic and lack of computer expertise. You flat out refused to learn the new computer program that was being installed when requested to do so. You were fired for JUST CAUSE and the President at the time (Kim) had every right as President to fire you. You may forget but I was 1st VP at the time and was aware of everything that happened during this time.

As for others doing your job after your firing, I must say that there were four people hired after you. I ran the office while a permenant person could be found. Did this take some time? Yes, it did and I made sure that everything was taken care of during the 1 1/2 years it took to find someone as experienced and trustworthy as Dianna. This permenant person turned out to be Dianna and she has done an exemptlary job since her hire and I can assure everyone in saying that she will continue to do so while in her position as Office Manager.

Now we get to the issue of Conflicts of Interest.
I must first agree with Danny that this club was started by a husband and wife team and I for one thank them for it. I also want to take this time to thank the Calderones for all their hard work and expertise they have giving time and time again to this club.
The Bylaws Committee are in the process of changing the Bylaws to rectify any conflicts that might arise due to family members holding positions on the Board whether elected or appointed OR hired by the Board. Hence, once this recommendation is sent to the Board, it will be posted at the office and on the web site for a period not less than 30 days to permit MEMBERS to inspect the recommendation and voice their opinions on it. Should any member want to add or remove any item from the recommendation they can contact the Board and prepare (In writing) their suggestions. This is a process that has been on the books since the start of the club and has served us well for over 20 years.

As for where the money goes; It goes to the following:
Summer picnic, Fall/Winter banquet (which includes the trophies, DJ, Hall rental, price for food and bar), Summer trophies, Office supplies (which have been cut due to emailing of standings and web site), Office payroll, New computer eqiupment (which was desperately needed) and Board member reimbursements for expenses incurred while in the performance or their jobs.

Any monies left over after these expenses are paid out goes back to the membership in the way of payouts as it has been done since Shep was a pup.

The Board meeting as stated by Dianna are open to any MEMBER. Are there conflicts from time to time on scheduling? Yes but since I joined the Board and retired (as it were...lol) the meeting have been cancelled 3 times at the most. Since I was on the Board for over 12 years I do not feel this is a habit OR an unwarranted item. As I remember, the only time any members showed up to a Board meeting was when they were complaining about a match and fighting had occurred. They very rarely showed up to find out what was going on as most members are in this club to have fun and don't really care about how the club is run but how their respective teams are doing on a given Wednesday night. They are happy with the staus quote...

As for contacting members when they called into the Office...I will not justify this with an answer. Let's just say it was done and will be continued to be done in a timely and professional matter since 2000.

Debbie, You DID post to stir up trouble cause you always do. You post half truths and innuendoes every time you have the chance. It's sad really that you never got over being fired from a job you took for granted for so long.

This is posted as a member of the LEDA for 20 years, not as a Board member. I am just "Joe Darter" now.

Linda Yeager, member LEDA
yeagermiester@oh.rr.com

Thanks Stinger for your reply. And thanks for being nice. We all want is best for the club.

I might not be on key with the league current. You are correct on this.

But, the building where the club has it's office may be sold.
I wonder if it is sold, the league will still be where it is and how much it will cost. Surely not the $1 a year it once paid and all utilities free.

If this happens I am sure changes will be made in fees. Or cut backs somehow.

Just food for thought.

And yet again you talk without knowing what the hell is going on.......

OMG, why don't you get a life, Debbie. You have been off the payroll and out of touch for 7 years now!

Why do you continue to throw around accusations? You know NOTHING about what is going on with this club. I'm sure I know where you are getting your 'information' and where as that person IS a member, they have been out of touch for several years too.

IMHO, you are starting trouble yet again and talking without first coming acrossed with hard FACTS.

I can list hard FACTS if you would like and they all would discredit everything you have said on this site. Do you REALLY want me to do that?

Linda Yeager

Just an FYI,

In the Bylaws it states:

SECTION 1: THE PRESIDENT – The President shall be the Chief Executive Officer of the L.E.D.A. He/she shall perform the entire duties incident to the Office of the President and Chief Executive Officer. The President shall preside over all B.O.D. meetings. The President of the L.E.D.A. will be placed in charge of all Office Procedures and Staff. The President will submit evaluation sheets to the current B.O.D. for Office Manager and staff hired as needed. The President will hire, fire, promote, evaluate, suggest pay scales, and set hiring wages for the L.E.D.A. office. The above listed duties of the President will be accomplished with a quorum of the current B.O.D. The President will, in an emergency, fill in for the Office Manager.

So this effectively eliminates ANY conflict of Interest. The President can NOT give raises, fire OR hire an Office Manager WITHOUT a quorum of the Board. For those of you who don't know, a quorum is a minimum of three current Board members. These Board members are as follows;
1st VP, 2nd VP, Treasurer, or Secretary
Also, the President only votes if there is a tie in the voting which rarely happens. I know this from actual experience.

All this beng said, the President is actually just a figure head who presides over meetings. The President does not vote on any issue unless there is a tie for some reason. EVERYTHING MUST BE APPROVED BY A QUORUM of the Board members only.

Just in case you were wondering....hard facts, Debbie!

Linda

I called the owner of the building and he stated that at this time the building is NOT for sale.

Dianna

Dianna, why did you have to go to the post office and pick up the mail in the first place? Did it not get delivered to the LEDA office? Do you get money for mileage as in the past? In your post you did not say which day you went to the post office.

And no, Linda I was not fired for the reasons you state. I was fired because the Pres at the time did not like me because I would not kiss her ass as you did. Neither her nor you ever came in to see what was going on or how you could help. Now I have something to say, you will side with anyone.

You ran the office for a few months after I was fired and had a family member take the position, then how many after this? Why so many before Dianna?

Yeager and Dianna you both post very long posts.

Linda,

Please do add your "Hard facts". I seemed to run the office fine with no problems until Kim came into office.

Never a complaint from any board or commitee member or a member.

There was no new computer program that you speak of. Or are you confusing me with someone else? I do know one person left the office very abrubtly. Locked up and left the keys never to come back.

Kim did not like me plain and simple. I did my job for the best of the club.

She wanted another wanna be that would bend to her and make her seem important.

I saw how she backed stabbed board members right in front of me, you included.

She got new board members involved only so they would have her vote and fire me. Once I was gone, they quit.

Am I bitter? yes. She had no idea what it took to really run the office. She handled my dismiss in a very unprofessional way.

You seem to know all. How much time did it take for me to receive my last pay check from the date I was fired?

If I was such a mess up as you say, why wasn't I dismissed sooner?

You, Linda how many times came into to office to use the postage machine for personal mailings? How many times did you take copy paper for your own use?

You at the time were a board member, I worked under you. Who took advantage?

Dianna,

Please e-mail the owner of the bldg to say it is not for sale. I am sure you can paste it so we all can see what you say is true. If he is not selling I am sure he will have no problem with this. This should be no problem as you said you callled him.

"For the league"-

Can you please stop using the LEDA forum to address your personal issues? If you have a problem with individuals, contact them directly. It's getting old.

I picked up the mail on Saturdays only, it was not being delivered until around 2pm. I did not always log milage for picking up the mail, I went by the post office on my way in, it was not out of my way. I have not logged any milage for the club in over a year.

As far as the building goes, it was up for sale, Mike has been going thru a private broker, he did not want it published that it was for sale. Thanks to you everyone knows, he told the people that he wanted to know and one of those people told you. Every person that has looked at the building, Mike has said that the dart office needs to stay. If it doesn't we will deal with it, when the time comes.

No one told me about the building. I said it may be sold. I was looking up info for a friend that wants to buy a building in Mentor. I saw the building where the league is located listed on the web for sale.

Not that many people even access this forum to see what goes on here. If others find out it is because someone here leaks it or finds it on their own.

If it was such a secret, why post the listing on the web in the first place? I certainly am not a rocket scientist by no means. If I could access the info this way, I am sure others can.

I always thought it was a great idea the league office and the part of Voks that did the dart supplies were in the same location. It benefitted both.

I never post anything to stir up trouble. It is others that blow things out of wack.
Sorry, I posted about info anyone could have found easily on their own.

Dianna, for what it is worth, from what I have seen, you are doing a great job. Being office manager is not an easy job. I know, I did it for almost 4 years.

Some posts I won't respond to as they go nowhere and do try to invoke hostility. This is not what this forum is about.

How many other posts have you deleted?

Thanks Mike, Appreciate it!!!

I really wish they would do something to make sure that people are members or something. She did the same thing when the other forum was up and was not sponsered by the club.

She has yet to contact me directly regarding anything she has said here...

Thanks for telling her like it is....

Linda
yeagermiester@oh.rr.com
(Just in case you get the guts, Debbie)...

Man oh man. Let it go, "For the League." Something had to have been wrong. People don't get fired for doing exceptional work. Whatever it was, those of us in the league now really don't care. The way I see it, league play is at about the same number of teams as it's been since I started (it's fluctuated a bit here and there, but not much), tournament participation is up, Trails nights have more than doubled, and new batch of young, hungry players are up and coming. I see it every Saturday at Lino's (not too often recently, but that's because I haven't been there). I've been to board meetings, and I'm sorry, but I don't see us doing that bad financially. Actually, I'm not sorry, why would I be sorry?

I always love when people get into these bits about where the money goes. Show up at board meetings, they'll tell you. Each member is up front and very personable.

OMG!!! I go away for a few days and it hits the fan...LMAO

From where I stand, the majority of posts here have nothing to do with league night and as such should have been placed under a "New Topic".

As for Debbie spewing BS again...well consider the source and let it at that. Many of the members know what happened in the past and don't want to rehash it constantly.

If you ignore her she might just go away...lol

She a scorned and bitter woman who only sees her side of things....too bad really. I think this was part of the problem. Kim has NEVER allowed her personal feelings to interfere in her professional life. She is and always will be a fair person who doesn't deserve what she's getting here.

If you want to get your point acrossed, then I agree with some posts that say contact the person directly and leave your personal BS off this site.

Winnie

:o I agree with dboy131 and anyone else who says let it go. I've been a member for over 10 years and I like this league because there isn't the DRAMA you find elsewhere...or at least there hadn't been!

The forum was designed to bring this league closer together - not drive us apart. It was also designed as AN ADDITIONAL communication avenue.

My opinion...tee hee hee (if anyone cares)....is that the current BOD are taking care of issues as they're supposed to be. The current office manager is doing a terrific job with communications and email, and our committees have been getting more and more tournaments and blind draws out there.

Oh yeah, one more thing, now that I'm getting healthier, I'll be getting a little more involved.

Oh....and I won't hide behind any cutsie screen name....I'm Kat.

Kat Burtick
KBurtick@earthlink.net


:o

good to see you back, Kat. Glad to hear that you're feeling better and it will be good to see you.

Take good care and hope to see you soon

Linda Y

Since it seems that my name has been thrown around a few times, and it's been 6 years since I was president, I can't go without commenting just a little.

Dianna has been the most loyal and dedicated office manager we have EVER had and I've been a member for over 22 years. I'm just sorry I didn't hire her when I was in office! The current BOD has a done a great job in tackling the issues of a club our size. They are continually evolving with new ideas, getting new players and streamlining processes to help save money. All that takes time and energy.

As a previous president, secretary and one that held many committee chairs, I can tell you we don't normally hear the good, only the negative. Hats off to those who put in their time and energy to continue making our club the club it is today. I know I don't say it enough, but THANK YOU!!! YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB!!

And, as for the slams by our prior office manager, they don't even deserve a reply. For those who care to know the truth, do. For those who don't, don't care anyway.

I also have to say that Phil has my backing for President. He is fair, VERY personable and is dedicated and loyal enough to give the club what it deserves.

I'm with Kat. I don't need to hide behind any screen name. (You just have to be current enough to follow my trail of last names! LOL!!!

Kim - Crofoot - Moncrief - Armstrong(forever)....and proud of it!

Great post Kim. although I'll have to second guess the forever part!!! You have to figure out the lefty! It's not hard.