So the Giants just announced that they will charge for a personal seat license (PSL) in the new stadium scheduled to open in 2010. The Jets will likely follow in a week or so. They join close to a dozen NFL teams that require a season ticket holder purchase the right to purchase a season ticket. The licenses will run from $1,000 to $20,000 per seat. That is a one time purchase and you can then sell the license later if you choose, probably for more than you paid. Thankfully the Mets and Yankees have decided not to go the license route with their new stadiums. Many college football teams have them. The SF Giants seem to have PSL. The Charlotte Hornets also have them, I think.

The Blue Jackets have some sort of seat licenses and the Devils have contemplated them, but the announcement from the NY Giants just lead my imagination down the path to the glorious Lighthouse and how Mr. Wang plans to pay for its construction.

This PSL scam is just another way to squeeze the already drained fan who can barely afford his tickets as it is. Sadly many football fans pay it, but also many fans who have had their season tickets in their family for decades will either have to give up the seats or move to a cheaper location in the stadium. It ain't right.

good thing for the fan that can afford this mindless spending.

*reporting from section 300's, row Q-S :punk:

I certainly would hope that if anyone near the Isles organization thought this was a good idea, they would quickly be reminded that our season ticket base is comparatively small as it is.

Granted football teams have a much larger demand for season tickets. (Something like a ten-year wait list for the Jets?) So this will probably give everyone a better opportunity to purchase them, and a way for the teams to make money.

Simple economics, when there is limited supply and high demand, the price will go up to bring down the demand. So most of the people willing to doll out the more money will get their seats.

I agree 100%, I think if the Isles tried this the season ticket base would shrink to a microscopic level, unless they get real good just in time for the new Lighthouse to open in 3 years or so....

This is really insane. Soon enough watching games will be only for the financially elite (There are still some cheap far away seats at most places). I have never heard of this before. Thanks for posting it.

You need a large fan base to pull this off. We won't be there for a while. If I ever had the money and actually bough tone of these personal seat licenses, I would want a personal refrigerator under it and my name carved in it. Nobody would be allowed to sit in it either. Not even for concerts. You could rent it though.. haha...

My friend's brother-in-law got Jets season tix for the coming season; he jumped about 2500 in line from last year. I think Mike and Mike on ESPN radio were saying how due to the economy, people aren't buying season tickets as much. I went to a Tampa Bay Rays game Friday night and as a promotion, they were handing out $5 Hess gas cards. At least its something for the fans who come out to a game.

I want Jets season tickets, but there is no way I'm going to pay 50 dollars a year just to stay on the list. As for personal seat licenses, I'm against them..Sports has become such a big business, it's basically killing off the true fan just so some fat cat can go and eat caviar and drink champaign and NOT watch the games..

50 a year to pay to be on a list.

do they total the amount that you paid, and put it forth the season tickets?

just wondering.

It's just wrong..a slap in the face :thumbsdown:

Since the new Giants/Jets stadium is to be entirely privately funded, I don't have a problem with the teams doing that. IF the teams paid for the stadium, its their toy.

If the stadiums were even 1% publicly funded, that would be BS.

Bob Costas who I can't stand made a great point on his show to the Angels owner. If stadiums are going to be even partially funded by taxpayers, how about seats an average taxpayer can actually afford.

I don't have a problem with seat licenses as well. If someone is idiotic enough to pay for that, well................its their right to be idiotic.

In theory I agree with you, but in reality it furthers the trend of pricing the average fan out of the game. As it is the average fan struggles to afford season tickets, and if you want to take your family to one game, good luck getting a half way decent seat along with parking, food and a souvenier for under a $100 per person.

The PSL just takes the better seats out of the range of regular people and makes them corporate seats. There are Jets and Giants fans who have had their seats for decades and gradually moved to better seats each year who will now have to move to cheaper seats or give them up. These people have bought their seats every year, been loyal paying customers for decades and are now just pushed aside. It's a shame.

Of course the teams can do it, and someone will be stupid enough to pay for it. But it likely won't be the loyal fan who has been there forever, it will be flavorofthemonth.com who takes the seats and then has to sell the PSL at the bankruptcy auction of their assets two years later.

But the team got their money so all is well.

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Its called capitalism. The Jets and Giants paid for the stadium. Last I checked, no taxpayer money was used.

IS it a shame that a fan may have to get cheaper seats? Well, I have a kid that is less than a year old...which means we go on cheaper vacations, shorter distance vacations or none at all. It is called sacrifices.

If fans don't want to get cheaper seats, than make more money because the Giants and Jets want to recoup the money they just shelled out ASAP and since the Secreatary General of the Communist Party doesn't run the teams, the teams have the right to do that.

This is the way of the world. I was raised in a single income family (that of a school teacher) from 1969-1987. We made due and got by and I never felt like we "had less" than others. IN fact, my parents gave up the season tickets we shared for the Isles from 1972-1990 because we could no longer afford them. We then had my brother and I in college so we had choices to make. Hockey for our family was something we all loved and connected with, so we didn't do European vacations, we never wintered in Mexico and we didn't drive around Audis or Beamers.

Nothing against those people that do have those things...good for them, but a person's life could be much worse in this world than having to give up season tickets. Everything in life is a choice based on priorities. If someone's priority is to keep those seats, make more money so you can.

If it were a publicly funded park I'd have a different view, but if it is private, then let them make the money.



And these are the same Jets & Giants fans who will cry about the price of a ticket to the new Yankee and Shea stadiums, but then cry when the Yankees don't sign A-Rod or Giambi or Abreu or Pettite to a 15-30 million a year deal or the Mets won't sign Wright or Beltran or Reyes or Delgado or Santana to a 10-25 million a year deal. Where do you think the teams get the money to pay these players??? It ain't ALL from the tv contracts.

If you have to take out a loan or use a credit card to shell out this dough to pay for the seats then you're just very simply irresponsible.

People just need to say no....enough is enough and stay away. But they won't.

Sports unfortunately...(Even hockey) have gotten way too expensive for me. I stay home and watch on tv.