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Title: Should the Islanders re-sign Miroslav Satan?
Description: No/Yes....and at what cost?


Webb20 - March 19, 2008 05:53 PM (GMT)
We know Miro has only 14 goals and 23 assists with just a handful of games left this season. Far below the production we all thought he'd bring to the Islanders. He has become a more rounded player in the defensive zone under Nolan, but remains as streaky a player there is in the NHL.

So fellow NYICers, I ask you, do you want to see Satan in an Islanders uniform next season.

I didnt include any lengths of contracts in the question because it would create too many choices and I think the bigger question is whether we want him to play next season, so for this exercise base your answer as if it would only be a 1 year deal for any 'yes' answer.

And of course, discuss his merits and pitfalls.


Dark Helmet - March 19, 2008 06:05 PM (GMT)
1 more year at 2 mil per... otherwise let him walk.

bvon44 - March 19, 2008 06:14 PM (GMT)
resign him...but for much less money, perhaps around 2 or 2.25 mil per

Islander4cups - March 19, 2008 06:16 PM (GMT)
i dont think so. mirfo is what... 35 now? i like him, think he plays well 2 ways but i dont think he's a 2nd line & pp player anymore. ih he's brought back, he could be a goog 3rd liner w/ hunter & silly next year. he would have netted half of hilbert's misses, but he's not as good defensively as hilbert. i'd love to see hilb go to 4th line where he belongs. his perfect role.

miro is no longer an o force and if he's willing to come back @ 2 mill for 3rd line time and pk duty...ok, but we need to bring in some top line talent...cant expect what we have on roster now to be first line.

even w/ that said...roster spots for tamby, bergie comeau & kyle shouyldn't be lost to bring back miro

Westfall18 - March 19, 2008 06:19 PM (GMT)
No thanks...Miro, thanks for your services..But your no longer needed..

totallypucked - March 19, 2008 06:31 PM (GMT)
I'd rather see the investment and scoring line opportunities go to Kyle, Tamby, and Comeau. We should use the money to try and get the best possible center out there, that is if we don't pick Stamkos. I say let the main UFA forwards-Satan, Fedotenko, Vasicek- all go.

hailSATAN - March 19, 2008 06:34 PM (GMT)
If we can resign Miro for about 2 mil i would in a heartbeat. I'd also like to see Vasichek brought back especially with Sillinger's recent injury.

Islander4cups - March 19, 2008 06:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (totallypucked @ Mar 19 2008, 01:31 PM)
I'd rather see the investment and scoring line opportunities go to Kyle, Tamby, and Comeau. We should use the money to try and get the best possible center out there, that is if we don't pick Stamkos. I say let the main UFA forwards-Satan, Fedotenko, Vasicek- all go.

even if we did draft stamkos, i'd still try to get the best FA center out there. we have plenty of kid wings so put a good player between them. as mentioned, we dont know what the deal is with silly yet. i think silly's recovery will influence the joe vas decision. he'd be a good 3rd line center, but not more than that

Dark Helmet - March 19, 2008 06:44 PM (GMT)
To be honest guys, If they sign Lankgow & Avery i will be a very happy man. Not to mention pick up one of the selections of good D-men that are actually on the market this year, we have a good shot if Garth knows WTF he is doing.

Westfall18 - March 19, 2008 06:48 PM (GMT)
I said no thanks, but you know deep down were not going to sign anyone in the off season...So he'll probably be back..

Dark Helmet - March 19, 2008 06:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Westfall18 @ Mar 19 2008, 01:48 PM)
I said no thanks, but you know deep down were not going to sign anyone in the off season...So he'll probably be back..

Bite that tongue... :rolleyes:

19! - March 19, 2008 06:53 PM (GMT)
Don't want this loser back or anywhere near this team. Way too invisible too often. He's part of the problem not part of the solution.

Westfall18 - March 19, 2008 06:54 PM (GMT)
I hope i'm wrong..Whenever I say something that is negative towards my team, I always say I hope I'm wrong..But you know? suckers like me will be back next season and the season after that and so on and so on.....

Webb20 - March 19, 2008 06:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Westfall18 @ Mar 19 2008, 02:48 PM)
I said no thanks, but you know deep down were not going to sign anyone in the off season...So he'll probably be back..

Why does that make sense. The Isles have trouble signing FAs and I'm sure the phone will be quiet in the Satan house come July 1st. So he'll need a job, would probably not want to uproot his family with young tot and we'll not want to pay good money for a popular player.

It'll be the perfect match except from a HOCKEY POINT OF VIEW. :fear:

4CUPZ - March 19, 2008 07:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dark Helmet @ Mar 19 2008, 02:44 PM)
To be honest guys, If they sign Lankgow & Avery i will be a very happy man. Not to mention pick up one of the selections of good D-men that are actually on the market this year, we have a good shot if Garth knows WTF he is doing.

YEAH AVERY

THATS THE ANSWER

BUT WTF WAS THE QUESTION????

rifleman22 - March 19, 2008 07:19 PM (GMT)
If Avery is an Islander I will never watch or go to another game. Honestly, I will root against them. That is how much I hate the guy. And there is absolutely no reason to even consider that disgruntled loser, there are plenty of other options.

Sorry, but that would be the last straw for yours truly.

As for Miro- thanks for everything but it's time to move on.

OntheIsle - March 19, 2008 07:20 PM (GMT)
:nono: No way

aries44475 - March 19, 2008 07:21 PM (GMT)
I vote yes but for less money, Satan has played hurt all year and while not the sniper he once was I still think he can be an effective scored on the second line.

Satan/Comrie/Bergy sounds good to me

Islander4cups - March 19, 2008 07:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dark Helmet @ Mar 19 2008, 01:44 PM)
To be honest guys, If they sign Lankgow & Avery i will be a very happy man. Not to mention pick up one of the selections of good D-men that are actually on the market this year, we have a good shot if Garth knows WTF he is doing.

what d men will be out there


please... not avery. he'll have worn out his welcome on three teams by age 29 and one was detroit when they were the class of the league. that says something about him

and he's invisible come playoff time

LEDZEP - March 19, 2008 07:24 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (rifleman22 @ Mar 19 2008, 03:19 PM)
If Avery is an Islander I will never watch or go to another game. Honestly, I will root against them. That is how much I hate the guy. And there is absolutely no reason to even consider that disgruntled loser, there are plenty of other options.

Sorry, but that would be the last straw for yours truly.

As for Miro- thanks for everything but it's time to move on.

Avery would give the Islanders a dimension they haven't had since......


............................Darius


LETS DO IT :thumbsup:

totallypucked - March 19, 2008 08:10 PM (GMT)
Here's a way of looking at Satan. He was signed to be a complement to Alexei Yashin. Yashin ain't here no more! :cheers:

In all honesty, Miro would be much better off playing with a playmaking center. He's been more well-rounded this year, but his offense should be better. The majority of the season, he's been playing with offensive superstars like Josef Vasicek and Richard Park, so it's not hard to figure out why his totals aren't very good.

hailSATAN - March 19, 2008 08:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (4CUPZ @ Mar 19 2008, 02:14 PM)
QUOTE (Dark Helmet @ Mar 19 2008, 02:44 PM)
To be honest guys, If they sign Lankgow & Avery i will be a very happy man. Not to mention pick up one of the selections of good D-men that are actually on the market this year, we have a good shot if Garth knows WTF he is doing.

YEAH AVERY

THATS THE ANSWER

BUT WTF WAS THE QUESTION????

How could you make me hate the islanders?

sybo - March 19, 2008 08:21 PM (GMT)
yes for less...and make it only a year. Hurt or not, he underacheived in a contract year, and that can't be overlooked.

Cain - March 19, 2008 08:27 PM (GMT)
Yes, one more year on the cheap and hope that when healthy and with talent around him he racks them up and we trade him at the deadline. (Or re-sign him another year and do it again.)

Snowman39 - March 19, 2008 08:44 PM (GMT)
This team needs to go in a completely different direction. I am not saying this out of any dislike for Miro and maybe he has a couple of good years left in him, but he needs to do it elsewhere. We have a few young kids on this team I'd rather see play over him next season, plus we need to improve via free agency as well.

Acards - March 19, 2008 09:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Snowman39 @ Mar 19 2008, 04:44 PM)
This team needs to go in a completely different direction. I am not saying this out of any dislike for Miro and maybe he has a couple of good years left in him, but he needs to do it elsewhere. We have a few young kids on this team I'd rather see play over him next season, plus we need to improve via free agency as well.

If we need the body then yes keep him at a cheaper rate. I can only hope we turn into what the blackhawks have done this year. I would like the kids to just play and let's see what they can do.

tsharaf - March 19, 2008 09:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Snowman39 @ Mar 19 2008, 03:44 PM)
This team needs to go in a completely different direction. I am not saying this out of any dislike for Miro and maybe he has a couple of good years left in him, but he needs to do it elsewhere. We have a few young kids on this team I'd rather see play over him next season, plus we need to improve via free agency as well.

Bingo!

That money could be better spent elsewhere. It lools to me like he is on the decline. He is clutch and probably our best shootout option, but $4.5 million needs to get you more than 14 goals.

Big money for little return.

Dark Helmet - March 19, 2008 09:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Islander4cups @ Mar 19 2008, 02:23 PM)
QUOTE (Dark Helmet @ Mar 19 2008, 01:44 PM)
To be honest guys, If they sign Lankgow & Avery i will be a very happy man. Not to mention pick up one of the selections of good D-men that are actually on the market this year, we have a good shot if Garth knows WTF he is doing.

what d men will be out there


please... not avery. he'll have worn out his welcome on three teams by age 29 and one was detroit when they were the class of the league. that says something about him

and he's invisible come playoff time

The only reason I say Avery is because he is a pest that gets under EVERYONE's skin and bring toughness with some skill along with his game...Many hate him and have good reason to, but we don't have anybody aside from Witt that is MEAN on this team. I root against him when he comes to town but I wouldnt mind having him... He puts up decent points for the ice time he gets.

And no, he's not the answer to the immediate "needs" that we have, but if i had a choice between him and Vasicek, the decision is easy.

What we TRULY need is a Top line Playmaking center and there are FEW of them to be had this offseason. My move would be to sign someone who will be here more than a year and lead the team better than Captain Bill...

We also need a top line winger and Okposo will hopefully become that with experience and when he grows into his frame a little bit more. (I'm sorry but there is a big physical difference between a 19 year old and a kid who is 24-25). So that should be excited to see the progression of KO. The kid obviously had a nose for being in the FRONT of the net, something that we've been lacking since Ryan Smyth or Parrish.

Our most dire needs are in this order:

1. Playmaking center with some scoring touch. A guy that will bring you 20-35 goals and 35-50 assists. Lankgow would fit that bill nice if he is available.

2. D-man that plays a respectful D-game but can put up points. A PP QB is a dire need for this squad. Hopefully they can bring someone in who can turn the tide. Although I'm excited about getting back guys like Witt and Campoli next year. But we still need another Top-2 guy.

3. Consistant Winger with scoring touch. We need one guy that can compliment the playmaking center we hopefully get. We have plenty of secondary scoring with grinding type guys. And, believe it or not, I think Fedotenko can pitch in well with secondary scoring if this need is met.

If we take care of these three things through free agency come early July, I will be re-upping on my season tickets. If we don't meet these needs it will be more of the same next season.


Additional note about the draft: Don't forget people that we have a ton of draft picks this year. If snow can play his cards right, we may be able to trade up for Stamkos if we have a top 5 pick PLUS to play with. As of right now, we're not in horrible shape to make a comback next year, but Garth HAS to make something happen in July, otherwise I will still have that pain in the back of my heart going into next season.

May the Shwartz be with you...

Snowman39 - March 19, 2008 10:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Acards @ Mar 19 2008, 04:09 PM)
QUOTE (Snowman39 @ Mar 19 2008, 04:44 PM)
This team needs to go in a completely different direction.  I am not saying this out of any dislike for Miro and maybe he has a couple of good years left in him, but he needs to do it elsewhere.  We have a few young kids on this team I'd rather see play over him next season, plus we need to improve via free agency as well.

If we need the body then yes keep him at a cheaper rate. I can only hope we turn into what the blackhawks have done this year. I would like the kids to just play and let's see what they can do.

We won't need the body. There will be tons of players out there to bring in, and of course you can always bring back Tank and/or Vasicek. The only way you bring Miro back is if you want him to come back. I cannot see anybody making a solid, legit case to bring him back.

As far as us turning into the Hawks, well if we get the #1 pick we will be very similar if not better (because we have more solid vets).

Westfall18 - March 19, 2008 10:39 PM (GMT)
Ever wonder why there offering two years worth of season tickets on the cheap?? Because you know and I know..THE TRUE REBUILDING ERA HAS BEGAN AGAIN!!

CapeBretonIslander08 - March 19, 2008 10:56 PM (GMT)
I never liked him, He is yellow and has no heart

mahigg123 - March 19, 2008 11:05 PM (GMT)
I have a feeling he will be a devil next year

3POTI - March 20, 2008 12:08 AM (GMT)
miro has all heart...one more year for free

Islander Pride - March 20, 2008 12:25 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Islander4cups @ Mar 19 2008, 02:44 PM)
QUOTE (totallypucked @ Mar 19 2008, 01:31 PM)
I'd rather see the investment and scoring line opportunities go to Kyle, Tamby, and Comeau. We should use the money to try and get the best possible center out there, that is if we don't pick Stamkos. I say let the main UFA forwards-Satan, Fedotenko, Vasicek- all go.

even if we did draft stamkos, i'd still try to get the best FA center out there. we have plenty of kid wings so put a good player between them. as mentioned, we dont know what the deal is with silly yet. i think silly's recovery will influence the joe vas decision. he'd be a good 3rd line center, but not more than that

I'm with you on that one .No D no winger ...we need a center. :cheers:

:worthy: :isles: :punk:

Thats Nice - March 20, 2008 12:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Islander Pride @ Mar 19 2008, 08:25 PM)
QUOTE (Islander4cups @ Mar 19 2008, 02:44 PM)
QUOTE (totallypucked @ Mar 19 2008, 01:31 PM)
I'd rather see the investment and scoring line opportunities go to Kyle, Tamby, and Comeau. We should use the money to try and get the best possible center out there, that is if we don't pick Stamkos. I say let the main UFA forwards-Satan, Fedotenko, Vasicek- all go.

even if we did draft stamkos, i'd still try to get the best FA center out there. we have plenty of kid wings so put a good player between them. as mentioned, we dont know what the deal is with silly yet. i think silly's recovery will influence the joe vas decision. he'd be a good 3rd line center, but not more than that

I'm with you on that one .No D no winger ...we need a center. :cheers:

:worthy: :isles: :punk:

Well I wouldn't complain if we got a winger too... :bag:

I say keep Miro if we can sign him for cheap. He's a veteran, and he deffinitlely knows what it takes to be a leading scorer, even if he can't do it any more. His knowledge as a 'sniper' and veteran status in the league could certainly be useful to have around for kids like Tamby.

CapeBretonIslander08 - March 20, 2008 12:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Thats Nice @ Mar 19 2008, 08:32 PM)
QUOTE (Islander Pride @ Mar 19 2008, 08:25 PM)
QUOTE (Islander4cups @ Mar 19 2008, 02:44 PM)
QUOTE (totallypucked @ Mar 19 2008, 01:31 PM)
I'd rather see the investment and scoring line opportunities go to Kyle, Tamby, and Comeau. We should use the money to try and get the best possible center out there, that is if we don't pick Stamkos. I say let the main UFA forwards-Satan, Fedotenko, Vasicek- all go.

even if we did draft stamkos, i'd still try to get the best FA center out there. we have plenty of kid wings so put a good player between them. as mentioned, we dont know what the deal is with silly yet. i think silly's recovery will influence the joe vas decision. he'd be a good 3rd line center, but not more than that

I'm with you on that one .No D no winger ...we need a center. :cheers:

:worthy: :isles: :punk:

Well I wouldn't complain if we got a winger too... :bag:

I say keep Miro if we can sign him for cheap. He's a veteran, and he deffinitlely knows what it takes to be a leading scorer, even if he can't do it any more. His knowledge as a 'sniper' and veteran status in the league could certainly be useful to have around for kids like Tamby.

Thats why we got #13 for

Hardlee Playinoff - March 20, 2008 01:20 AM (GMT)
Miro... no one owes you millions of dollars a year for skating back and forth and stick-handling occasionally in an Islander uniform. You've got to earn it... and you didn't.

Make way for someone more motivated and hungry.

Just look at any of the really motivated and successful teams this season. Now, which of those teams would tolerate this kind of half-a$$ed effort and tie up their precious cap dollars doing it?

CapeBretonIslander08 - March 20, 2008 01:27 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Hardlee Playinoff @ Mar 19 2008, 09:20 PM)
Miro... no one owes you millions of dollars a year for skating back and forth and stick-handling occasionally in an Islander uniform. You've got to earn it... and you didn't.

Make way for someone more motivated and hungry.

Just look at any of the really motivated and successful teams this season. Now, which of those teams would tolerate this kind of half-a$$ed effort and tie up their precious cap dollars doing it?

Exactly!! :thumbsup:

Thats Nice - March 20, 2008 01:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (CapeBretonIslander08 @ Mar 19 2008, 08:39 PM)
Thats why we got #13 for

Valid point, valid point.

But, personally, I think Miro is more of Tamby's style, know what I'm saying?

I don't understand where all this 'Miro is half @$$-in it' stuff is coming from. He plays hard, plays through injuries, but doesn't play the style of hockey that we expect from Nolan. I mean, people say we're sick of the whole 'hard-working underdogs' thing, but one of the few players who doesn't have that style of play gets bashed for it?

Granted, Miro has lost most of his offensive touch, so it's more understandable to be negative toward him...

Personally, I would like to see him back next year, but if we let him go, I really won't be broken hearted about it.
:bag:

CapeBretonIslander08 - March 20, 2008 01:49 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Thats Nice @ Mar 19 2008, 09:37 PM)
QUOTE (CapeBretonIslander08 @ Mar 19 2008, 08:39 PM)
Thats why we got #13 for

Valid point, valid point.

But, personally, I think Miro is more of Tamby's style, know what I'm saying?

I don't understand where all this 'Miro is half @$$-in it' stuff is coming from. He plays hard, plays through injuries, but doesn't play the style of hockey that we expect from Nolan. I mean, people say we're sick of the whole 'hard-working underdogs' thing, but one of the few players who doesn't have that style of play gets bashed for it?

Granted, Miro has lost most of his offensive touch, so it's more understandable to be negative toward him...

Personally, I would like to see him back next year, but if we let him go, I really won't be broken hearted about it.
:bag:

Hey thats cool I respect your opinion. Its just me I dont like European players, I never have and never will. They have lots of talent but no heart. There are the odd exception
like Ovechkin, he is a special hockey player but for the most part in my opinion I think they play like robots. Sorry




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