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gdprof27 - November 7, 2009 06:17 PM (GMT)
You have to feel for the guy, just can't catch a break. It was an innocent play, he's just brittle.



Radek Out For The Year

MMingE - November 7, 2009 07:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gdprof27 @ Nov 7 2009, 01:17 PM)
You have to feel for the guy, just can't catch a break. It was an innocent play, he's just brittle.



Radek Out For The Year

Can't catch a break...? All he does is catch breaks :P

IslandersWin86 - November 7, 2009 07:47 PM (GMT)
That didn't take long.

islesfever - November 7, 2009 08:28 PM (GMT)
also team Captain Dougie Weight is out for a week. Now repeat after me

With the first pick in the draft, the Islanders select Taylor Hall of the Windsor Spitfires from the Ontario Hockey League :punk:

oldislesfan - November 7, 2009 09:00 PM (GMT)


Well we are picked to come in last.

:angry:

Shooter - November 7, 2009 09:49 PM (GMT)
I feel terrible for him. He's a good guy. But his play was awful this year. He even admitted it at one point. He even said he was fearful of getting hurt again. And when you play soft and afraid of contract, it finds you in the worst ways.

Tavarizard - November 7, 2009 09:57 PM (GMT)
Well this sucks. Radek's one of my favorite players on the team, and IMO a very under-rated player (although he was playing poorly this season).

What does this mean for the season? Well we just lost our only legitimate NHL defender not named Mark Streit, so I am lowering our playoff chances to 6% (rather than the previoius 8%).

Shooter - November 7, 2009 10:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Tavarizard @ Nov 7 2009, 04:57 PM)
Well this sucks. Radek's one of my favorite players on the team, and IMO a very under-rated player (although he was playing poorly this season).

What does this mean for the season? Well we just lost our only legitimate NHL defender not named Mark Streit, so I am lowering our playoff chances to 6% (rather than the previoius 8%).

The problem losing Radek is, despite his poor play, his speed from the backline. It's a shame he's so injury prone. But hopefully the team moves forward in the next 12 months and reloads with at least three new defensemen next season.

tsharaf - November 7, 2009 11:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Shooter @ Nov 7 2009, 05:03 PM)
QUOTE (Tavarizard @ Nov 7 2009, 04:57 PM)
Well this sucks. Radek's one of my favorite players on the team, and IMO a very under-rated player (although he was playing poorly this season).

What does this mean for the season? Well we just lost our only legitimate NHL defender not named Mark Streit, so I am lowering our playoff chances to 6% (rather than the previoius 8%).

The problem losing Radek is, despite his poor play, his speed from the backline. It's a shame he's so injury prone. But hopefully the team moves forward in the next 12 months and reloads with at least three new defensemen next season.

Next season? What abt this season? There is garbage at the Bridge in terms of d-men. Myers is no replacement for Radek. Then you have Sutton's yearly season-ending injury any minute now. They need to scour the market for legit d-men NOW.

MMingE - November 7, 2009 11:24 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (islesfever @ Nov 7 2009, 03:28 PM)
also team Captain Dougie Weight is out for a week. Now repeat after me

With the first pick in the draft, the Islanders select Taylor Hall of the Windsor Spitfires from the Ontario Hockey League :punk:

:nono:

We need a quality defensemen

"With The First Overal Pick, The New York Islanders select Cam Fowler

#19Trotts - November 7, 2009 11:32 PM (GMT)
Bring up DeHaan!

stevedepot - November 7, 2009 11:38 PM (GMT)
Let's not bash this guy. He's had bad luck. This done for year thing with the torn acl
was the last thing we needed to hear. Poor guy.
We were better with him in the lineup and now we'll be praying for no more injuries on D.

I just saw how Weight gut hurt in isles pregame show.
2 Dev's hit him cleanly along the boards and he seemed to be slightly favoring his left forearm and or shoulder. Wonder if it's a bruised bicep or shoulder.

dragoneye - November 7, 2009 11:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (tsharaf @ Nov 8 2009, 07:10 AM)
QUOTE (Shooter @ Nov 7 2009, 05:03 PM)
QUOTE (Tavarizard @ Nov 7 2009, 04:57 PM)
Well this sucks. Radek's one of my favorite players on the team, and IMO a very under-rated player (although he was playing poorly this season).

What does this mean for the season? Well we just lost our only legitimate NHL defender not named Mark Streit, so I am lowering our playoff chances to 6% (rather than the previoius 8%).

The problem losing Radek is, despite his poor play, his speed from the backline. It's a shame he's so injury prone. But hopefully the team moves forward in the next 12 months and reloads with at least three new defensemen next season.

Next season? What abt this season? There is garbage at the Bridge in terms of d-men. Myers is no replacement for Radek. Then you have Sutton's yearly season-ending injury any minute now. They need to scour the market for legit d-men NOW.

Haha . So true.

Sutton is a bright spot in my eyes right now. He is knocking people off their feet and sending them into flight. I love that about hockey. It will be a shame when he goes down with his yearly...

Craving_the_Cup_Since_1992 - November 8, 2009 12:41 AM (GMT)
Damn, the glass d-man. Hopefully Radek can come back from this. He may have been playing poorly, but the team was better with him.

Tavarizard - November 8, 2009 01:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (MMingE @ Nov 7 2009, 07:24 PM)
QUOTE (islesfever @ Nov 7 2009, 03:28 PM)
also team Captain Dougie Weight is out for a week.  Now repeat after me

With the first pick in the draft, the Islanders select Taylor Hall of the Windsor Spitfires from the Ontario Hockey League :punk:

:nono:

We need a quality defensemen

"With The First Overal Pick, The New York Islanders select Cam Fowler

I think it's safe to say that when Biron gets traded at the deadline (he will), we'll be getting a defensman in return....
:knowitall:

Snowman39 - November 8, 2009 03:39 AM (GMT)
If we happen to be in a position to draft Cam Fowler, I hope we do (unless Taylor Hall is available). As many of you know, I was all for the drafting of Tavares over Hedman. We also drafted de Haan. I think drafting a defenseman like Fowler would be the right move. Travis Hamonic is a guy who I really believe could be a top 4 defenseman on this team in the future. de Haan is going to be a top pairing defenseman. If we could add a big body like Fowler, that's 3 young defensemen that will set us up for years to go with Tavares, Okposo, and the others.

bumpkin - November 8, 2009 08:12 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Snowman39 @ Nov 7 2009, 10:39 PM)
If we happen to be in a position to draft Cam Fowler, I hope we do (unless Taylor Hall is available).  As many of you know, I was all for the drafting of Tavares over Hedman.  We also drafted de Haan.  I think drafting a defenseman like Fowler would be the right move.  Travis Hamonic is a guy who I really believe could be a top 4 defenseman on this team in the future.  de Haan is going to be a top pairing defenseman.  If we could add a big body like Fowler, that's 3 young defensemen that will set us up for years to go with Tavares, Okposo, and the others.

But we need more game breakers, too. The cupboard is still not filled enough.
BPA for a lottery team, get lucky in the second round, and go forward from there.
Not writing off the season, but our depth is paper thin.

3POTI - November 8, 2009 05:10 PM (GMT)
radek, we love ya...your a good man, good player, rah rah rah..blah blah blah..but, really getting fed up with the softness dude, the brittleness, time to say goodbye....I hear Rick is looking for a golf club partner.

Snowman39 - November 8, 2009 05:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (bumpkin @ Nov 8 2009, 03:12 AM)
QUOTE (Snowman39 @ Nov 7 2009, 10:39 PM)
If we happen to be in a position to draft Cam Fowler, I hope we do (unless Taylor Hall is available).  As many of you know, I was all for the drafting of Tavares over Hedman.  We also drafted de Haan.  I think drafting a defenseman like Fowler would be the right move.  Travis Hamonic is a guy who I really believe could be a top 4 defenseman on this team in the future.  de Haan is going to be a top pairing defenseman.  If we could add a big body like Fowler, that's 3 young defensemen that will set us up for years to go with Tavares, Okposo, and the others.

But we need more game breakers, too. The cupboard is still not filled enough.
BPA for a lottery team, get lucky in the second round, and go forward from there.
Not writing off the season, but our depth is paper thin.

I know its early, but other than Hall, I believe Fowler is the BPA for the '10 draft. I'm sure that will change 50 times between now and June. If we keep playing like this, it won't matter for us anyway.

stonedcold39 - November 8, 2009 10:18 PM (GMT)
Well, a lot of you know I was never a big fan of Radek, but he was playing well the past few weeks, and I am sad to see him go. Yet, I do think Gordon's comments in Newsday were a little over the top.

Mulefan - November 9, 2009 06:36 AM (GMT)
Radek is simply too brittle to play in the NHL. It's a shame because he can play but he's put together with ice cream sticks.

king glorious - November 9, 2009 03:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Mulefan @ Nov 9 2009, 01:36 AM)
Radek is simply too brittle to play in the NHL. It's a shame because he can play but he's put together with ice cream sticks.

this is sad for me because I am martineks biggest fan. I feel I jinxed him because prior to Fridays game i posted on the glass half full section that we will make the playoffs and make everybody proud provided one thing happens - that martinek stays healthy.

I am a bit surprised by some of the comments ont his thread tho, yes he had a slow start to the season but our recent winning was coincidently occuring jsut as he was playing like his old self. IMO without question he has been the best player on the isles for the past 4 years when he is in the lineup (which is infreqent). I am surprised that more people dont recognize this as there are obviously very saavy fans on here. Yet more often then not many comments only reflect on who is scoring, as if nothing else is happening on the ice.

I have said it before but look at our record when he is int he lineup as opposed to when he is out. Gordon said " he is the best kep secret in the NHL" He is always against the opps top line ALWAYS!

Having said that, i dont know how we keep as a cornerstone of our team and defense, somebody who cant play a half a season.

Get well soon RADEK

stevedepot - November 9, 2009 03:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (king glorious @ Nov 9 2009, 10:50 AM)
QUOTE (Mulefan @ Nov 9 2009, 01:36 AM)
Radek is simply too brittle to play in the NHL. It's a shame because he can play but he's put together with ice cream sticks.

this is sad for me because I am martineks biggest fan. I feel I jinxed him because prior to Fridays game i posted on the glass half full section that we will make the playoffs and make everybody proud provided one thing happens - that martinek stays healthy.

I am a bit surprised by some of the comments ont his thread tho, yes he had a slow start to the season but our recent winning was coincidently occuring jsut as he was playing like his old self. IMO without question he has been the best player on the isles for the past 4 years when he is in the lineup (which is infreqent). I am surprised that more people dont recognize this as there are obviously very saavy fans on here. Yet more often then not many comments only reflect on who is scoring, as if nothing else is happening on the ice.

I have said it before but look at our record when he is int he lineup as opposed to when he is out. Gordon said " he is the best kep secret in the NHL" He is always against the opps top line ALWAYS!

Having said that, i dont know how we keep as a cornerstone of our team and defense, somebody who cant play a half a season.

Get well soon RADEK

Good post.

Even I disagree about one thing. Making the playoff.s I don't think 3 healthy Martinek's gets us in.

He is a talented heady defenseman who's had alot of bad luck. Some guys avoid injury. Some don't. No question we ARE better with him in the lineup and this one sucks big time. Let's hope Meyer takes advantage of this opportunity to become a asset rather than a fill in.


tsharaf - November 9, 2009 03:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (king glorious @ Nov 9 2009, 10:50 AM)
QUOTE (Mulefan @ Nov 9 2009, 01:36 AM)
Radek is simply too brittle to play in the NHL. It's a shame because he can play but he's put together with ice cream sticks.

this is sad for me because I am martineks biggest fan. I feel I jinxed him because prior to Fridays game i posted on the glass half full section that we will make the playoffs and make everybody proud provided one thing happens - that martinek stays healthy.

I am a bit surprised by some of the comments ont his thread tho, yes he had a slow start to the season but our recent winning was coincidently occuring jsut as he was playing like his old self. IMO without question he has been the best player on the isles for the past 4 years when he is in the lineup (which is infreqent). I am surprised that more people dont recognize this as there are obviously very saavy fans on here. Yet more often then not many comments only reflect on who is scoring, as if nothing else is happening on the ice.

I have said it before but look at our record when he is int he lineup as opposed to when he is out. Gordon said " he is the best kep secret in the NHL" He is always against the opps top line ALWAYS!

Having said that, i dont know how we keep as a cornerstone of our team and defense, somebody who cant play a half a season.

Get well soon RADEK

He struggled during one atrocious game. Other than that, he and Sutton have been matched against opponents' top line. Watch Ovechkin play against us without Martinek and than again with him. Ovechkin is the happiest person that he doesn't have to face him again this season.

Jackace - November 9, 2009 06:29 PM (GMT)
This could be Snow's chance to add the defenseman we need. He may have to overpay to get someone solid so early in the year, but you never know. Snow must realize he cant fill Radek's spot with someone from the Bridge without it hurting this team. If he is serious about improving the club, this is his opportunity!

OlTimeHockey - November 9, 2009 06:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jackace @ Nov 9 2009, 01:29 PM)
This could be Snow's chance to add the defenseman we need. He may have to overpay to get someone solid so early in the year, but you never know. Snow must realize he cant fill Radek's spot with someone from the Bridge without it hurting this team. If he is serious about improving the club, this is his opportunity!

It won't happen......let's wait for the next Thompson-boxing story about how one of our farm defensemen is our next secret weapon instead.

Andy - November 9, 2009 07:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (oldislesfan @ Nov 7 2009, 04:00 PM)
Well we are picked to come in last.

:angry:

We're too good to come in last anymore... :disgraced:

Webb20 - November 9, 2009 07:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jackace @ Nov 9 2009, 01:29 PM)
This could be Snow's chance to add the defenseman we need. He may have to overpay to get someone solid so early in the year, but you never know. Snow must realize he cant fill Radek's spot with someone from the Bridge without it hurting this team. If he is serious about improving the club, this is his opportunity!

He'll most likely wait until DP is back and needs to move Biron. It is early in the season and GMs don't usually start wheeling and dealing unless there are injuries and/or requests for trades.


IslandersWin86 - November 9, 2009 07:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Webb20 @ Nov 9 2009, 02:10 PM)
QUOTE (Jackace @ Nov 9 2009, 01:29 PM)
This could be Snow's chance to add the defenseman we need.  He may have to overpay to get someone solid so early in the year, but you never know.  Snow must realize he cant fill Radek's spot with someone from the Bridge without it hurting this team.  If he is serious about improving the club, this is his opportunity!

He'll most likely wait until DP is back and needs to move Biron. It is early in the season and GMs don't usually start wheeling and dealing unless there are injuries and/or requests for trades.

Garth is no dummy, he hasn't made a significant silly move yet. Biron will be here until the last possible moment and will go to the team that needs a goalie the worst and is willing to pay the most.

RockitHC - November 9, 2009 07:38 PM (GMT)
eh, even though its sucks for him, i dont mind not seeing him. I don't see the isles play changing much from his loss. Bring up someone, trade for someone, I dont mind... im kinda bored of Radek, no offense (pun, sorta).

LEDZEP - November 9, 2009 07:39 PM (GMT)
Radek is the #1 Islander :thumbsup:

Jackace - November 9, 2009 08:44 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (LEDZEP @ Nov 9 2009, 02:39 PM)
Radek is the #1 Islander :thumbsup:

19,692 and counting

LEDZEP - November 9, 2009 09:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jackace @ Nov 9 2009, 03:44 PM)
QUOTE (LEDZEP @ Nov 9 2009, 02:39 PM)
Radek is the #1 Islander :thumbsup:

19,692 and counting

now 19,643 and counting......... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

rifleman22 - November 10, 2009 03:36 PM (GMT)
I feel bad for the guy but it's time to move on. Every season he takes a medocre hit and doesn't survive it. He's brittle and in the NHL you simply cannot be.

I like the guy, his speed out of the zone and his smarts, but enough is enough. The guy can't make an entire season, ever.

Webb20 - November 10, 2009 03:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (rifleman22 @ Nov 10 2009, 10:36 AM)
I feel bad for the guy but it's time to move on. Every season he takes a medocre hit and doesn't survive it. He's brittle and in the NHL you simply cannot be.

I like the guy, his speed out of the zone and his smarts, but enough is enough. The guy can't make an entire season, ever.

No, not the type of player you want to rely on.

#19Trotts - November 11, 2009 04:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (king glorious @ Nov 9 2009, 05:50 PM)
I have said it before but look at our record when he is int he lineup as opposed to when he is out. Gordon said " he is the best kep secret in the NHL" He is always against the opps top line ALWAYS!

I just had to check it out and I dug up these stats. Including all games this season as per Nov.7

When Radek's on the team we are actually .509 since his first game back in 2001.
Compete stats WITH Radek on the team: 176-169-44

When he's out we have been struggling and just put up a .473 record.
Compete stats WITHOUT Radek on the team: 82-93-27


I think this confirms just how underrated Radek is!

IslandersWin86 - November 11, 2009 04:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (#19Trotts @ Nov 11 2009, 11:20 AM)
QUOTE (king glorious @ Nov 9 2009, 05:50 PM)
I have said it before but look at our record when he is int he lineup as opposed to when he is out.  Gordon said " he is the best kep secret in the NHL"  He is always against the opps top line ALWAYS!

I just had to check it out and I dug up these stats. Including all games this season as per Nov.7

When Radek's on the team we are actually .509 since his first game back in 2001.
Compete stats WITH Radek on the team: 176-169-44

When he's out we have been struggling and just put up a .473 record.
Compete stats WITHOUT Radek on the team: 82-93-27


I think this confirms just how underrated Radek is!

hmm...so we're mediocre with him, and mediocre without him...not exactly an Avery-Rangers relationship.

#19Trotts - November 11, 2009 05:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (IslandersWin86 @ Nov 11 2009, 06:26 PM)
hmm...so we're mediocre with him, and mediocre without him...

Hey, what else is new? :(

king glorious - November 16, 2009 09:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (IslandersWin86 @ Nov 11 2009, 11:26 AM)
QUOTE (#19Trotts @ Nov 11 2009, 11:20 AM)
QUOTE (king glorious @ Nov 9 2009, 05:50 PM)
I have said it before but look at our record when he is int he lineup as opposed to when he is out.  Gordon said " he is the best kep secret in the NHL"  He is always against the opps top line ALWAYS!

I just had to check it out and I dug up these stats. Including all games this season as per Nov.7

When Radek's on the team we are actually .509 since his first game back in 2001.
Compete stats WITH Radek on the team: 176-169-44

When he's out we have been struggling and just put up a .473 record.
Compete stats WITHOUT Radek on the team: 82-93-27


I think this confirms just how underrated Radek is!

hmm...so we're mediocre with him, and mediocre without him...not exactly an Avery-Rangers relationship.

well i hesitate to make this comment because you can always play with the numbers to help your arguement. but,

I remember a stretch at end of '08 where we finished the year with litterally a farm team on defense surrounding martinek. we werent even trying to win... it is hard to just eliminate a 3-17 stint, but that actually effects the difference in numbers quite a bit. does anybody else remember who was in our lineup for that period - i do remember we beat the rags in a shootoout in the season finale.

and this is all out of memory as well, so I could be wrong, but in thinking back to the few good starts we had where we were very competitive (and maybe even leading the division once in late november/ december) our demise always litterally coincided with martineks eventual injury.




Shooter - November 16, 2009 09:22 PM (GMT)
Martinek's game slipped deeply this year. He even admitted it at one point to Jaffe. And he was well aware of getting injured, it's why he played soft all year. True, he's not a physical defenseman. However, his usefulness had hit a wall. I wish him luck. I hope Snow wises up and starts replacing guys like Meyer and Gervais. If they do, this team will improve dramatically. And Streit's game will pick up more since he won't have to worry about Mr. Giveaway on his right side.




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