Normally Larry Brooks gets a lot of crap on this board but he makes a great point this time:

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/islanders/i...Nyd48O0EEb1eDRK

For once Larry speaks the truth..for once i dont have the urge to smack him in the junk with a steel toed jack boot...

Larry has only said what most people (who are suckered into the Wang hype) know. It's all about the Lighthouse. It's never been about the Islanders. If you think it was, Wang's got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn (no pun intended for the moving conscious here).

THE ONLY THING CAME TO MIND AFTER READING THAT

NO sh!t SHERLOCK

:lol:

As much as all of you would like to think that Charles Wang is all about the Lighthouse and doesn't give a rats a$$ about hockey, I can only say the following.

I spoke to Garth Snow this morning about this article.

I can't tell you what he said verbatum as we were off the record, but I will tell you this....

Charles Wang does NOT (can I repeat that?) NOT make the hockey decisions for the team. He has given Garth Snow the authority and the room to do as he sees fit.

You may not like what he is currently doing, and that is your right. However... you don't have his job.

So Wang hasn't set a limit for payroll? Snow has the authority to spend up to 53 million this year and lock players into 3-6yr deals if he wants? I'd like to hear those answers "on the record" because until I here that I'm not cutting Wang any slack.....is it all Wang's fault?? No, but either Snow has a budget on money and years or he's just awful at selling this team to FA's.

So Charles Wang is not involved in hockey decisions other than hiring someone at $11.25 an hour to do so for him? Great. Next Islanders GM will be picked up outside a Long Island Home Depot.

Then we are in worse shape than we think. Assuming Garth could add some salary, he should do something about the D. Thanks for listening.
This is not how one builds(rebuilds) a winning tradition.

Let's just see what happens in March.
By then Rick will be back in net (or not)
And the Islanders' will have a good idea of where they are in the standings.

You may not like the decisions he has made, but he is sticking to a direction and he has the respect of the other GMs in this league.

He even managed to piss off Brian Burke by not giving into him... and that's a bonus unto itself.

Sorry, one more thing. Over the weekend I saw an interview with Bon Jovi. He said something interesting. He was talking about Richie Sambora's drug addiction and how he stepped in and got him into rehab.

"You make a decision and you live with it. I made the decision. That's what I do." Jon told the reporter in no uncertain terms. It sounded eerily familiar to me.

Because that's what the person in charge does. He makes the hard decisions and lives and dies with the outcome. That's probably the first and last time Garth Snow will be referenced in the same paragraph with Jon BonJovi.

though one could argue garth was "living on a prayer" when he put this roster together

All the disgusting Bon Jovi rumors coming back to me head....(none were true, but "poser" metal always got the angst or hardcore metal heads.....let's stop before TMC comes by!)

I really do admire your loyalty to the organization.

I keep thinking back to Mike Milbury.
Nobody worked harder and cared so much as Mad Mike.
In the end, he was inept.


I know you watch the practices and ask questions etc etc.
But you're following THIS team. There are 29 others doing the same.

Some with more talent,
some with less,
some with better coaching
yet only one is a giant mess....US.

(yes I'll keep my day job, that was horrible)

I've been barking about Scott Gordon's bullwinkle "system" since last year.
I've been barking about Wang's meddling in the past along with his focus on the gold at the end of a the rainbow with the LH nonsense.

here's something for you to think about:
If you're a successful businessman, you DO NOT buy a FARM and hire people
to grow sh!t who have little to NO horticultural background. You cannot prosper
if everyone is "learning on the job".

:dontknow:

Phoenix: 6k attendance, ownership coup's, dejected coach.

They're certainly in a bigger mess than we are.

Only the Leafs are worse off.


The Coyotes are 6-3. Thats situation wil work out. They have a GM (cough) Maloney who's doing it right by taking care of prospects and NOT rushing them now for marketing reasons.

I don't think it's for marketing reasons Steve with the Islanders. It's to keep the payroll down. I don't believe for one second that Wang hasn't given Snow a budget and it is where it is right now.

I do admire Snow if he's been given a budget and this is all he has to work with. If Wang has said, go for it, then he's a major disappointment. No one can be this inept in a. protecting the young kids with no enforcer. b. gave us a goalie who can't play at the age of 40. c. didn't get some NHL veteran out there that would have loved to played with Tavares. d. come up with a better defense corp than we have.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Snow regularly alluded to Wang giving him the leeway to add salary? About every time the question popped up?

I believe he has. So that makes it the latter.

Snow has Thompson articles talking about his "tough guy" training in the offseason, gotten Rolo and Biron and a coach who has left defense out of his plans, got Rob Schremp to compliment Tambellini and Berganheim as the Enigma Line but no one to play with Tavares (he DID believe we had all the tools to make the playoffs Nolan's second year training deadline, so he probably believes in this roster just as much) and he probably was giddy over Gervaise and FMIV's development and thought Streit and Co. were solid.

I think that pretty much sums up Garth based on Garth's prior actions.

Oh no, we actually agree more than you think there.

My "marketing" issues center around rushing Bailey last year when he clearly wasn't ready.
Instead they marketed the kid like he was more than he was.

The reason I pointed out the situation with Maloney is that he was hesitant to send 18, 19 year old high draft picks back down to JR's or even the minors for more maturing, physical development prior to this year where he gets it. The short term patience with youngsters can
go a long way towards long term success with their development vs rushing them.
Not everyone is Tavares.

I know Snow's hands are probably tied by budget restrictions.

7th, respect and all, but I read that and think, "Big F'n Deal".

I don't care which GM respects Garth or who hates him. I just want him to get the best damn team on the ice. Win more then "just enough games" to just squeak into the play-offs. Make some play-off runs (not 1 and out). And just maybe get a :cup: out of the deal.


I'm by no means "hooked" into all the behind the scenes of the this team. By as I watch/look at it from a far, I'm not seeing the improvements. I see history repeating itself again. How long before J.T. hits the Ziggy status and he gets "Milbury-ed" and the rebuild continues.


We all want "it" back, but I can't see it happening in the next 5 years. :cry:

If you seriously think this is the only team out of 30 that "is a mess," then you're not paying attention either.

Isles are a mess........... :dontknow:

:yea: :puke:

Screw Larry Brooks. He is still a Messier jock sniffin' know nothing homer Rag fan that happens to write a column in the Post.

Leave the Islanders alone, Larry, and continue to write the absolute BS you write about those Rag gays. Slow news day? We don't care.

Well the Leafs won their first game of the year yesterday and unlike us, it was in regulation.

Our record is 1-4-5 and our only win coming via shootout.

Reality. Reality, reality. Forget the "the glass half full".

LEDZEP said it best in his humorous way in the other thread...
the glass is broken.

Teams that go places don't look for silver linings, they dig till they find gold.
We don't even have a shovel and Brook' article was very accurate.

WE ALREADY STRUCK ISLANDER GOLD

PYRITE :rolleyes:

:argh: