Title: Gordon must go!
Description: Who should be the coach?
islesfever - October 18, 2009 03:26 PM (GMT)
Bring back Laviolette? :dontknow:
DannyBinAtlanta - October 18, 2009 03:28 PM (GMT)
I can't see any self-respecting coach wanting to get involved with the Islanders organization right now. :bag:
timotime - October 18, 2009 03:36 PM (GMT)
I think it will be Laviolette. One thing is for sure — it better be someone with credibility.
The question is — do you really think Wang would be willing to eat any salary for a coach or player he doesn't absolutely have to?
Islander4cups - October 18, 2009 03:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (islesfever @ Oct 18 2009, 10:26 AM) |
| Bring back Laviolette? :dontknow: |
I WOULD LOVE THAT!!!!!
Let's face it. You know Wang knows it was a mistake to can Lavvy espeically with replacing him with the Ray Handley of hockey in SS.
I'm actually surprised no one hired Lavvy for this season. The guy has a ring for frigging sake. The fact that he was replaced by the guy he replaced just shows that Carolina doesn't like that much change.
Lavy is the best coach the Isles have EVER had other than Arbour. Time to bring him in when Gordon gets canned...and I can see that happening by Christmas.
4CUPZ - October 18, 2009 03:43 PM (GMT)
COACHING THE ISLANDERS IS LIKE HITTING LOTTO FOR A SMALL JACKPOT
THEY MAY SIGN FOR 2-3 YEARS
BUT YOU KNOW THEY'LL NEVER MAKE IT
AND THEY'LL SIT HOME WATCHING A JG WENTWORTH COMMERCIAL
" ARE YOU RECIEVEING A STRUCTURED SETTLEMENT...BUT YOU NEED MONEY NOW?"
puckhead - October 18, 2009 03:46 PM (GMT)
How many friggin coaches can a team go through? I think a constant revolving door of coaches for this franchise has not helped. This team hasn't had a coach since Arbour......that's right....since ARBOUR.........that completed more than two straight seasons. That has to change.
Its way too early to pull the plug on Gordon. This team needs stability.
Islander4cups - October 18, 2009 03:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (puckhead @ Oct 18 2009, 10:46 AM) |
How many friggin coaches can a team go through? I think a constant revolving door of coaches for this franchise has not helped. This team hasn't had a coach since Arbour......that's right....since ARBOUR.........that completed more than two straight seasons. That has to change.
Its way too early to pull the plug on Gordon. This team needs stability. |
But we'll only get that if the players, especially kids like Bergie, Neilsen, BAILEY show progress along with the team.
I'm not saying we need to go .500 from now to Thanksgiving, but we better not keep seeing the SAME MISTAKES and the SAME LACK OF SKATING in the third period. We saw that last year and if we are seeing it again this year = NO PROGRESS.
Canning the coach on Thanksgiving didn't seem to hurt the Craptials two seasons ago, nor did canning the coach hurt the Pens last year.
I'm not saying doing it will get us into the playoffs. We aren't a playoff team with Jesus Christ coaching us. But we need to see PROGRESS, espeically from the kiddies.
Can you honestly say we are seeing that?
puckhead - October 18, 2009 04:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Islander4cups @ Oct 18 2009, 10:50 AM) |
| QUOTE (puckhead @ Oct 18 2009, 10:46 AM) | How many friggin coaches can a team go through? I think a constant revolving door of coaches for this franchise has not helped. This team hasn't had a coach since Arbour......that's right....since ARBOUR.........that completed more than two straight seasons. That has to change.
Its way too early to pull the plug on Gordon. This team needs stability. |
But we'll only get that if the players, especially kids like Bergie, Neilsen, BAILEY show progress along with the team.
I'm not saying we need to go .500 from now to Thanksgiving, but we better not keep seeing the SAME MISTAKES and the SAME LACK OF SKATING in the third period. We saw that last year and if we are seeing it again this year = NO PROGRESS.
Canning the coach on Thanksgiving didn't seem to hurt the Craptials two seasons ago, nor did canning the coach hurt the Pens last year.
I'm not saying doing it will get us into the playoffs. We aren't a playoff team with Jesus Christ coaching us. But we need to see PROGRESS, espeically from the kiddies.
Can you honestly say we are seeing that?
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The next coach of the NY Islanders will be Jack Capuano. :rolleyes:
4CUPZ - October 18, 2009 04:28 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (puckhead @ Oct 18 2009, 12:13 PM) |
| QUOTE (Islander4cups @ Oct 18 2009, 10:50 AM) | | QUOTE (puckhead @ Oct 18 2009, 10:46 AM) | How many friggin coaches can a team go through? I think a constant revolving door of coaches for this franchise has not helped. This team hasn't had a coach since Arbour......that's right....since ARBOUR.........that completed more than two straight seasons. That has to change.
Its way too early to pull the plug on Gordon. This team needs stability. |
But we'll only get that if the players, especially kids like Bergie, Neilsen, BAILEY show progress along with the team.
I'm not saying we need to go .500 from now to Thanksgiving, but we better not keep seeing the SAME MISTAKES and the SAME LACK OF SKATING in the third period. We saw that last year and if we are seeing it again this year = NO PROGRESS.
Canning the coach on Thanksgiving didn't seem to hurt the Craptials two seasons ago, nor did canning the coach hurt the Pens last year.
I'm not saying doing it will get us into the playoffs. We aren't a playoff team with Jesus Christ coaching us. But we need to see PROGRESS, espeically from the kiddies.
Can you honestly say we are seeing that?
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The next coach of the NY Islanders will be Jack Capuano. :rolleyes:
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WELL IF THAT DONT EXCITE YOU
WHAT WILL :puke:
The Moose - October 18, 2009 04:32 PM (GMT)
LAVA!!!!!!!!!!
I <3 Lava!
but failing Lava, I'd welcome someone that had a clue how to motivate NHLers
Snowman39 - October 18, 2009 04:33 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (puckhead @ Oct 18 2009, 10:46 AM) |
How many friggin coaches can a team go through? I think a constant revolving door of coaches for this franchise has not helped. This team hasn't had a coach since Arbour......that's right....since ARBOUR.........that completed more than two straight seasons. That has to change.
Its way too early to pull the plug on Gordon. This team needs stability. |
They should only pull the plug on Gordon if they have an experienced coach to replace him. If they have that, then they should absolutely fire him. There is absolutely no excuse to get off to this kind of start. There is enough talent here to NOT be the worst team in the league, even with the awful defense we have.
Craving_the_Cup_Since_1992 - October 18, 2009 04:47 PM (GMT)
Right now, there are a lot of personnel that should go, so I'll wait until we're 0-17-3 for the gordon must go chant.
puckhead - October 18, 2009 04:52 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Snowman39 @ Oct 18 2009, 11:33 AM) |
| QUOTE (puckhead @ Oct 18 2009, 10:46 AM) | How many friggin coaches can a team go through? I think a constant revolving door of coaches for this franchise has not helped. This team hasn't had a coach since Arbour......that's right....since ARBOUR.........that completed more than two straight seasons. That has to change.
Its way too early to pull the plug on Gordon. This team needs stability. |
They should only pull the plug on Gordon if they have an experienced coach to replace him. If they have that, then they should absolutely fire him. There is absolutely no excuse to get off to this kind of start. There is enough talent here to NOT be the worst team in the league, even with the awful defense we have.
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I think you're kidding yourself Snowy if you think we have enough talent.
dragoneye - October 18, 2009 05:06 PM (GMT)
Gordon may suck, but the personnel suck more. We need to live with crap for at least the next year. Face it, there are too many things going against us in all aspects of the hockey world. I won't call for anyone's head until after next year, barring anythign really dumb that he might say or do.
3POTI - October 18, 2009 05:27 PM (GMT)
let the players coach themselves...players always win out over coaches anyway. Being a coach nowadays is nothing. Its just some poor putz standing around trying to please a bunch of overpaid unmotivational babies playing kid games.
4CUPZ - October 18, 2009 05:43 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Craving_the_Cup_Since_1992 @ Oct 18 2009, 12:47 PM) |
| Right now, there are a lot of personnel that should go, so I'll wait until we're 0-17-3 for the gordon must go chant. |
AT 0-17-3
WE'LL BE SINGING KANSAS CITY HERE THEY COME
OlTimeHockey - October 18, 2009 05:51 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (puckhead @ Oct 18 2009, 11:52 AM) |
| QUOTE (Snowman39 @ Oct 18 2009, 11:33 AM) | | QUOTE (puckhead @ Oct 18 2009, 10:46 AM) | How many friggin coaches can a team go through? I think a constant revolving door of coaches for this franchise has not helped. This team hasn't had a coach since Arbour......that's right....since ARBOUR.........that completed more than two straight seasons. That has to change.
Its way too early to pull the plug on Gordon. This team needs stability. |
They should only pull the plug on Gordon if they have an experienced coach to replace him. If they have that, then they should absolutely fire him. There is absolutely no excuse to get off to this kind of start. There is enough talent here to NOT be the worst team in the league, even with the awful defense we have.
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I think you're kidding yourself Snowy if you think we have enough talent.
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I would agree with Snowy. Line 1 and Line 2 are talented enough to have us in games, our defense, if in a trap system, would flourish (compared to now when it looks as if we have a bunch of Jeff Finleys or Eric Carins' out there). Our whole team, if in a sensible Lavy-Year-One system (barely a system, just good coaching) would have more production.
Bailey is suffering with the Gorton demanded "get rid of the puck quick" tactic of Oversuck. I see this eery game. Watching period one against the Sharks, I see our positining has 5 guys on the same side of the ice skating around like they're all following the puck around, NOT THEIR ASSIGNMENTS (if a real coach were there to give assignments).
Lavy had issues again with his lockerroom, so I would be careful. I would hunt for an old school smarts coach who pushes defense first but embraces scoring units.
And If Gorton goes, Snow is next. :disgraced:
3POTI - October 18, 2009 06:00 PM (GMT)
bring back arbour. :punk:
and bring back neil smith :punk:
the cup is ours :punk:
CANADA - October 18, 2009 06:02 PM (GMT)
When we ended last year as the leagues worst, there was absolutely no accountablity. Now, after 6 games into this season, we're battling the Leaf's for the cellar again.
This is not progress :bag:
Gordon must go !!!
and yes, Lavy would be a welcome addition at this point
Webb20 - October 18, 2009 06:03 PM (GMT)
The time is at hand. Snowy's right that we do have some talent that we should be showing a better game all around. This not having anything come the end of the game is BS. I swear I've seen better balance on some HS coached teams.
We have guys that like to hold the puck...Bailey, Comeau, Schremp, Tavares, Weight, Streit and Okposo that naturally like to hold the puck and see the play unfold. A system of moving the puck after it's been on your tape for a millisecond is not right for these guys, and THESE guys are the heart of our team. We need a coach that will create a game plan around what little strengths we have and not force the little talent into a concept that's only right in the mind of the coach.
ronski631 - October 18, 2009 06:06 PM (GMT)
i heard gretzky is available :disgraced:
KO21balterman - October 18, 2009 06:10 PM (GMT)
I cant comment on his system, although i'm sure its probably not the best way to utilize the players, but just about gordon:
he shows no emotion..and i hate that. i know its not necessarily a bad thing, but he just stands there game to game looking like a big douche with his hands interlocked by his waist. i cant take it.
get into it a little bit! for crying out loud, he just has that stupid facial expression as he watches us give up goal, by goal, by goal, by goal.
gordon = fail
3POTI - October 18, 2009 06:22 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (KO21balterman @ Oct 18 2009, 02:10 PM) |
I cant comment on his system, although i'm sure its probably not the best way to utilize the players, but just about gordon:
he shows no emotion..and i hate that. i know its not necessarily a bad thing, but he just stands there game to game looking like a big douche with his hands interlocked by his waist. i cant take it.
get into it a little bit! for crying out loud, he just has that stupid facial expression as he watches us give up goal, by goal, by goal, by goal.
gordon = fail |
well, if you were signed on to coach a bunch of ahl players, and 3rd liners in the nhl, and you're probably restricted into doing things to make the team better, because you're trying to get into the running for taylor hall next year...how the heck would you look?
OlTimeHockey - October 18, 2009 06:34 PM (GMT)
He did show emotion when he cried over Witt's remarks.
Don't blame the system. LEAVE MY SYSTEM ALONE!!!

Overspeed - October 18, 2009 06:41 PM (GMT)
Bring back lavvy, or someone else with experience, look at the Kings and Avs, they have progressed!
3POTI - October 18, 2009 06:57 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Overspeed @ Oct 18 2009, 02:41 PM) |
| Bring back lavvy, or someone else with experience, look at the Kings and Avs, they have progressed! |
yeah the avs progressed even more with this duchene kid. :P
timotime - October 18, 2009 07:00 PM (GMT)
We don't have the talent. And I don't think Gordon is the guy to coach this team when we do have the horses (think Washington, who fired their young coach once Ovechkin et al were really ready to take off). Thus, the only deciding factor should be if Gordon is the right guy to aide the development of our younger guys.
Unfortunately, I don't think he's that, either.
OlTimeHockey - October 18, 2009 07:21 PM (GMT)
Bridgeport has Overspeed going full throttle......to match Gorton's last place team. That team is in first place. How about we send Gorton to the AHL to teach players a minor league system instead of making the NHL franchise a minor league one? They'll just have to learn defense when called up, but hey.....we'll have a chance at least?
LEDZEP - October 18, 2009 07:21 PM (GMT)

I'm Going Nowhere :angry:
ronski631 - October 18, 2009 07:32 PM (GMT)
Arbour made kids into Men.
Milbury made kids cry.
Bowness made kids stupid.
Stewart made kids ????
Goring made kids wear foamy helmets.
Laviolette made kids wait awhile.
Stirling made kids cringe their teeth.
Nolan didn't like the kids.
Gordon likes the kids.
who's next? :disgraced:
islesfever - October 18, 2009 07:40 PM (GMT)
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/nyi091018.htmlOctober 18, 2009 // 10:59am ET
Coaching changes ahead in Long Island?
TheFourthPeriod.com
Off to a poor start to the season, the New York Islanders could be contemplating a chance behind the bench in the coming months.
According to the Ottawa Sun, Islanders head coach Scott Gordon might be on the hot seat and in jeopardy of losing his job if the team can't start winning consistently.
The paper claims former Carolina Hurricanes coach Peter Laviolette is a prime candidate to replace Gordon. :banana: :drool: :cheers:
timotime - October 18, 2009 07:45 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (islesfever @ Oct 18 2009, 07:40 PM) |
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/nyi091018.html
October 18, 2009 // 10:59am ET Coaching changes ahead in Long Island? TheFourthPeriod.com
Off to a poor start to the season, the New York Islanders could be contemplating a chance behind the bench in the coming months. According to the Ottawa Sun, Islanders head coach Scott Gordon might be on the hot seat and in jeopardy of losing his job if the team can't start winning consistently.
The paper claims former Carolina Hurricanes coach Peter Laviolette is a prime candidate to replace Gordon. :banana: :drool: :cheers: |
like i've said — wouldn't surprise me from a hockey point of view, it would just surprise me if wang took an unnecessary loss and added an unneeded salary.
ronski631 - October 18, 2009 07:53 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (timotime @ Oct 18 2009, 02:45 PM) |
| QUOTE (islesfever @ Oct 18 2009, 07:40 PM) | http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/nyi091018.html
October 18, 2009 // 10:59am ET Coaching changes ahead in Long Island? TheFourthPeriod.com
Off to a poor start to the season, the New York Islanders could be contemplating a chance behind the bench in the coming months. According to the Ottawa Sun, Islanders head coach Scott Gordon might be on the hot seat and in jeopardy of losing his job if the team can't start winning consistently.
The paper claims former Carolina Hurricanes coach Peter Laviolette is a prime candidate to replace Gordon. :banana: :drool: :cheers: |
like i've said — wouldn't surprise me from a hockey point of view, it would just surprise me if wang took an unnecessary loss and added an unneeded salary.
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maybe wang can fire snow and make Lavy a Gm and coach?
hell, it worked for Mil...i mean...Gain...I Mean....um....... :blink:
3POTI - October 18, 2009 08:06 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ronski631 @ Oct 18 2009, 03:32 PM) |
Arbour made kids into Men.
Milbury made kids cry.
Bowness made kids stupid.
Stewart made kids ????
Goring made kids wear foamy helmets.
Laviolette made kids wait awhile.
Stirling made kids cringe their teeth.
Nolan didn't like the kids.
Gordon likes the kids.
who's next? :disgraced: |
Nyisles :punk: bring him back. :punk:
Mulefan - October 18, 2009 08:19 PM (GMT)
I don't like Gordon either. But as brutal as the defense has looked and as below average our goaltending has looked I'm not sure if All Arbour and Scotty Bowman in their prime combined could win with this team. We will be fighting with Tampa for that #1 for sure with this bunch. Right now Streit and the #1 line are the only thing worth watching. The rest of the team has looked scary bad.
drivefor5 - October 18, 2009 08:42 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (OlTimeHockey @ Oct 18 2009, 02:21 PM) |
| Bridgeport has Overspeed going full throttle......to match Gorton's last place team. That team is in first place. How about we send Gorton to the AHL to teach players a minor league system instead of making the NHL franchise a minor league one? They'll just have to learn defense when called up, but hey.....we'll have a chance at least? |
Maybe overspeed is too slow in the NHL???
Its working in the AHL..it worked for Gordon at the AHL level in Providence..maybe his system just doesnt work at the NHL level??
Dark Helmet - October 18, 2009 09:09 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (drivefor5 @ Oct 18 2009, 04:42 PM) |
| QUOTE (OlTimeHockey @ Oct 18 2009, 02:21 PM) | | Bridgeport has Overspeed going full throttle......to match Gorton's last place team. That team is in first place. How about we send Gorton to the AHL to teach players a minor league system instead of making the NHL franchise a minor league one? They'll just have to learn defense when called up, but hey.....we'll have a chance at least? |
Maybe overspeed is too slow in the NHL???
Its working in the AHL..it worked for Gordon at the AHL level in Providence..maybe his system just doesnt work at the NHL level??
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Nah, couldn't be. Ya think? :o
Craving_the_Cup_Since_1992 - October 18, 2009 09:11 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (islesfever @ Oct 18 2009, 02:40 PM) |
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/nyi091018.html
October 18, 2009 // 10:59am ET Coaching changes ahead in Long Island? TheFourthPeriod.com
Off to a poor start to the season, the New York Islanders could be contemplating a chance behind the bench in the coming months. According to the Ottawa Sun, Islanders head coach Scott Gordon might be on the hot seat and in jeopardy of losing his job if the team can't start winning consistently.
The paper claims former Carolina Hurricanes coach Peter Laviolette is a prime candidate to replace Gordon. :banana: :drool: :cheers: |
Is this TFP's version of an Eklund rumor?
Dark Helmet - October 18, 2009 09:16 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Craving_the_Cup_Since_1992 @ Oct 18 2009, 05:11 PM) |
| QUOTE (islesfever @ Oct 18 2009, 02:40 PM) | http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/nyi091018.html
October 18, 2009 // 10:59am ET Coaching changes ahead in Long Island? TheFourthPeriod.com
Off to a poor start to the season, the New York Islanders could be contemplating a chance behind the bench in the coming months. According to the Ottawa Sun, Islanders head coach Scott Gordon might be on the hot seat and in jeopardy of losing his job if the team can't start winning consistently.
The paper claims former Carolina Hurricanes coach Peter Laviolette is a prime candidate to replace Gordon. :banana: :drool: :cheers: |
Is this TFP's version of an Eklund rumor?
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I hope not. :bag:
Tavarizard - October 18, 2009 09:23 PM (GMT)
There's a reason why High School and College football coaches ditch the option game plan once they make it onto the big stage. It doens't work.
The same applies with hockey, but Gordon obviously doesn't realize that his minor league system does not work with the big boys.
Garth should sit him down and explain this. Tell him to ditch, or at least modify, his Overspeed system. Give him a few weeks to do that, and see how it goes. If we're still losing more than we should be, I'm perfectly okay with giving him the boot.