Title: C - Frans Nielsen
Webb20 - February 11, 2009 03:43 PM (GMT)
This week we'll discuss Frans Nielsen. In the first year of his 4 year deal with the Islanders this center is from Herning, Denmark. He's a smooth skater and passer and is currently skating between Trent Hunter and Andy Hilbert.
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stevedepot - February 11, 2009 03:47 PM (GMT)
BETTER.
I was the most critical of him and Garth Snow for handing him a 4 year 1-way deal.
Frans has been a pleasant surprise, shame he got hurt when he was playing at a high tempo.
sybo - February 11, 2009 03:47 PM (GMT)
Webb20 - February 11, 2009 03:56 PM (GMT)
I agree, a pleasant surprise and glad his salary is locked and he under contract for 3 more seasons with us.
4CUPZ - February 11, 2009 04:19 PM (GMT)
FINALLY A BARGAIN WITH AN UPSIDE
Mezz21 - February 11, 2009 06:11 PM (GMT)
As Expected...he is doing what he was signed to do. Right now, he is a third line playmaking center with skating ability and good hockey sense. He plays the PK and gets some PP minutes. To me, that is what he was signed to do.
puckhead - February 12, 2009 02:26 PM (GMT)
This is exactly the type of player to grow and develop.....and it looks like he has enough talent where he can be a 50 to 70 point a year guy. He was playing real well up until he got hurt........but now slowly but surely is returning to that form.
Gotta love him.
nyhockeyreport - February 12, 2009 04:07 PM (GMT)
He has done nicely. I think more games = more experience = better player.
Well done.
Shooter - February 12, 2009 05:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (puckhead @ Feb 12 2009, 09:26 AM) |
This is exactly the type of player to grow and develop.....and it looks like he has enough talent where he can be a 50 to 70 point a year guy. He was playing real well up until he got hurt........but now slowly but surely is returning to that form.
Gotta love him. |
:o
Are you kidding me?
50 to 70 points? The guy can't bury a shot from five feet away. Fourth line player. Nice one in fact.
LEDZEP - February 12, 2009 06:01 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Shooter @ Feb 12 2009, 12:55 PM) |
| QUOTE (puckhead @ Feb 12 2009, 09:26 AM) | This is exactly the type of player to grow and develop.....and it looks like he has enough talent where he can be a 50 to 70 point a year guy. He was playing real well up until he got hurt........but now slowly but surely is returning to that form.
Gotta love him. |
:o
Are you kidding me?
50 to 70 points? The guy can't bury a shot from five feet away. Fourth line player. Nice one in fact.
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I think puckhead had a type O
He meant to post 5 to 7 points :thumbsup:
Shooter - February 12, 2009 06:05 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (LEDZEP @ Feb 12 2009, 01:01 PM) |
| QUOTE (Shooter @ Feb 12 2009, 12:55 PM) | | QUOTE (puckhead @ Feb 12 2009, 09:26 AM) | This is exactly the type of player to grow and develop.....and it looks like he has enough talent where he can be a 50 to 70 point a year guy. He was playing real well up until he got hurt........but now slowly but surely is returning to that form.
Gotta love him. |
:o
Are you kidding me?
50 to 70 points? The guy can't bury a shot from five feet away. Fourth line player. Nice one in fact.
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I think puckhead had a type O
He meant to post 5 to 7 points :thumbsup:
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Oh, okay, thanks Led. I thought I was watching the wrong guy being referred to in this thread. I realize a big burst of excitement is generated with this group of players every time someone comes close to scoring, which Frantz does quite a bit. But rarely is the puck deposited into the net.
I like him as a fourth line player. Then again, there are about six or seven of these fourth liners on the team. Result: What you have this season.
3POTI - February 13, 2009 06:30 PM (GMT)
he maybe a 4th liner now, but I can see him becoming a 2nd liner in the future..scoring will come..he needs the right wingers...scorers to be precise.
Shooter - February 13, 2009 07:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (3POTI @ Feb 13 2009, 01:30 PM) |
| he maybe a 4th liner now, but I can see him becoming a 2nd liner in the future..scoring will come..he needs the right wingers...scorers to be precise. |
So you see him more like a Josh Bailey, pass first, shoot second player?
drivefor5 - February 13, 2009 09:00 PM (GMT)
I think he has surpassed expectations this year...sucks he missed a whole lot of games esp when he has been playing real well...hopefully he can turn it up down the stretch.
dr_eagle - February 13, 2009 09:21 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Shooter @ Feb 12 2009, 01:55 PM) |
| The guy can't bury a shot from five feet away. |
:yes:
If we were voting on who can hit the boards behind the net, then yes, he is above expectations.
thew8511 - February 13, 2009 10:46 PM (GMT)
At least he's having a career year. He has two goals already and he's on pace for three!
3POTI - February 14, 2009 10:00 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Shooter @ Feb 13 2009, 03:55 PM) |
| QUOTE (3POTI @ Feb 13 2009, 01:30 PM) | | he maybe a 4th liner now, but I can see him becoming a 2nd liner in the future..scoring will come..he needs the right wingers...scorers to be precise. |
So you see him more like a Josh Bailey, pass first, shoot second player?
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absolutely.
Dr. Generosity - February 20, 2009 02:51 AM (GMT)
About what I expected so far. Reminds me a bit of a young Sergei Berezin. Good skater, seems to get a lot of shots, could be a goal scorer . . . jury's still out, he's got time to develop, and he's not exactly playing with top line talent alongside him yet either, so you gotta grade him on the curve.
While I'm rooting for the Isles to finish in the basement, I never root against Nielsen and the kid line.
totallypucked - March 17, 2009 05:26 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Shooter @ Feb 12 2009, 12:55 PM) |
| QUOTE (puckhead @ Feb 12 2009, 09:26 AM) | This is exactly the type of player to grow and develop.....and it looks like he has enough talent where he can be a 50 to 70 point a year guy. He was playing real well up until he got hurt........but now slowly but surely is returning to that form.
Gotta love him. |
:o
Are you kidding me?
50 to 70 points? The guy can't bury a shot from five feet away. Fourth line player. Nice one in fact.
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I would love for you to point out a fourth line player that can dish passes like Franz does. Did you see the pass he made with under 5 min to go to Mark Streit against Montreal. Put the puck through about four defenders barely looking. This is his first full year, and he's already a .5 point per game player. He's a playmaker and may never be a 20-goal guy, but there are plenty of supremely talented pass first guys out there that put up huge numbers.
Dark Helmet - March 17, 2009 08:55 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (totallypucked @ Mar 17 2009, 01:26 PM) |
| QUOTE (Shooter @ Feb 12 2009, 12:55 PM) | | QUOTE (puckhead @ Feb 12 2009, 09:26 AM) | This is exactly the type of player to grow and develop.....and it looks like he has enough talent where he can be a 50 to 70 point a year guy. He was playing real well up until he got hurt........but now slowly but surely is returning to that form.
Gotta love him. |
:o
Are you kidding me?
50 to 70 points? The guy can't bury a shot from five feet away. Fourth line player. Nice one in fact.
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I would love for you to point out a fourth line player that can dish passes like Franz does. Did you see the pass he made with under 5 min to go to Mark Streit against Montreal. Put the puck through about four defenders barely looking. This is his first full year, and he's already a .5 point per game player. He's a playmaker and may never be a 20-goal guy, but there are plenty of supremely talented pass first guys out there that put up huge numbers.
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Despite the injury, I feel he should have more than 5 goals on the year at this point in his development. Let's see what next year brings... If it's anthing less than 35 points for a whole 82 game season I will be dissapointed.
At least he comes cheap. There is def some offensive talent there.
And he should be a 4th line player on a good NHL team.
Down the middle next year should look like this:
Line 1 - Free Agent (brought in to add offensive spark, but mostly faceoff wins)
Line 2 - Bailey
Line 3 - '09 Draft Choice
Line 4 - Nielsen
And we roll 4 lines, giving 4th line guys about 8-12 minutes.
BritBlueNOrange - March 18, 2009 06:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Dark Helmet @ Mar 17 2009, 03:55 PM) |
| QUOTE (totallypucked @ Mar 17 2009, 01:26 PM) | | QUOTE (Shooter @ Feb 12 2009, 12:55 PM) | | QUOTE (puckhead @ Feb 12 2009, 09:26 AM) | This is exactly the type of player to grow and develop.....and it looks like he has enough talent where he can be a 50 to 70 point a year guy. He was playing real well up until he got hurt........but now slowly but surely is returning to that form.
Gotta love him. |
:o
Are you kidding me?
50 to 70 points? The guy can't bury a shot from five feet away. Fourth line player. Nice one in fact.
|
I would love for you to point out a fourth line player that can dish passes like Franz does. Did you see the pass he made with under 5 min to go to Mark Streit against Montreal. Put the puck through about four defenders barely looking. This is his first full year, and he's already a .5 point per game player. He's a playmaker and may never be a 20-goal guy, but there are plenty of supremely talented pass first guys out there that put up huge numbers.
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Despite the injury, I feel he should have more than 5 goals on the year at this point in his development. Let's see what next year brings... If it's anthing less than 35 points for a whole 82 game season I will be dissapointed.
At least he comes cheap. There is def some offensive talent there.
And he should be a 4th line player on a good NHL team.
Down the middle next year should look like this:
Line 1 - Free Agent (brought in to add offensive spark, but mostly faceoff wins)
Line 2 - Bailey
Line 3 - '09 Draft Choice
Line 4 - Nielsen
And we roll 4 lines, giving 4th line guys about 8-12 minutes.
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IIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFF the Islanders have Number 1 pick, and pick John Tavares, then you can expect to see Tavares as 1st line centre.
BritBlueNOrange - March 18, 2009 06:41 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (totallypucked @ Mar 17 2009, 12:26 PM) |
| QUOTE (Shooter @ Feb 12 2009, 12:55 PM) | | QUOTE (puckhead @ Feb 12 2009, 09:26 AM) | This is exactly the type of player to grow and develop.....and it looks like he has enough talent where he can be a 50 to 70 point a year guy. He was playing real well up until he got hurt........but now slowly but surely is returning to that form.
Gotta love him. |
:o
Are you kidding me?
50 to 70 points? The guy can't bury a shot from five feet away. Fourth line player. Nice one in fact.
|
I would love for you to point out a fourth line player that can dish passes like Franz does. Did you see the pass he made with under 5 min to go to Mark Streit against Montreal. Put the puck through about four defenders barely looking. This is his first full year, and he's already a .5 point per game player. He's a playmaker and may never be a 20-goal guy, but there are plenty of supremely talented pass first guys out there that put up huge numbers.
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Joe Thornton/Marc Savard...
yummy
drob4481 - March 18, 2009 07:45 PM (GMT)
I think Neilson can be a goal scorer, I have seen him hit the post so many times this year, he has a good shot, he was playeing well before the injury