I am very interested to see how Yankees fans treat him. Let's face it, when the "Giambino" (dumbest name from announcer sans anything Chris Berman has come up with) gave his 1/2 apology, Yanks fans were quick to give him a pass. Pettite didn't get much abuse from them either.

However, because it is Arod and Yanks fans (on average) are hypocrites, they will continue to clobber the guy over this...despite the fact that his admission and apology is far beyond what Gambi gave them.

And I will be interested to see exactly how bad the abuse is because for Yanks fans to act holier than thou on the "roids issue" will be laughable. We've already seen players such as Leyritz, Justice, Pettite, Clemens, Knobloch and others from the 96-01 era implicated or test positive. If Yanks fans feel that Arod is somehow "morally inferior" and not deserving of being a Yankee, does that mean the organization will give back those World Series wins gained with tainted players? (I don't think they should since every team had tainted players).

For me, his admission and apology is enough. It is beyond what Pete Rose gave. It is beyond what Palmario, Bonds, Sosa, and McGwire gave. Enough is enough already from Yankees fans.

I wish I was back in NY so I could hear blowhard Francessa go on about this. I'm sure he's set his soapbox on Mt. Olympus for this one.

this is the year ARod brings home the championship :punk:

Personally, I think A-Rod is a completely different situation that Giambi or Pettite.

I think that Pettite's explanation of why he took steroids was honest and forgivable. While I am a big fan of Pettite, I think that it was at least a bit understandable.
Giambi, well, I always kinda expected him to be on steroids, so I wasn't too shocked or angry when he came out.

A-Rod was supposed to be a brighter light in the steroid era. Somebody who could break records and put up stellar numbers consistently without the help of steroids. Finding out that he did take them at one point was dissappointing to say the least.
:cry:

A-Roid press conference starting now.
On all major cable networks.

Didn't know what was going into his body. BS!

I WAS YOUNG AND IGNORANT

Now he is just older.

Young, Dumb, and full a ..............




A-roid blows. Can the Mets please step it up this year. #57 needs a hand. And if your not going to help him, send him back to Minnesota, so my two Twins jerseys (and the team) will mean something again.

Thank you.




:thumbsup:

What galls me about this guy Rodriguez is not only that he took steroids, but that he sat back, smiled, and ducked the limelight when Pettite and Giambi faced the music for doing the same thing.

I would have given him real credit if he had affirmatively volunteered his culpability and offered an confession and apology. But lying low until the bad news about him hits the papers, while those guys made their grim-faced confessions? Oh, please.

Saying he's been more forthright than some other ballplayers like Palmeiro and Rose is simply damning him with faint praise.

Hawk and Rock for the Hall in 2010. Vive les Expos!

They are all SCUMBAGS, every single one of them,
even Jeter and everyone else who is frustrated with answering the press.

They are all part of the SAME effen players association that allows this shroud of secrecy
to permeate through the league from top to bottom.


And please lets not make this crap into a METS - YANKS thing ok?
I am a Yanks fan or can i say was. I highly doubt everyone on every MLB team is clean
when the entire league has never tested for HGH or previous drugs.
From amphetemines to so many other drugs, they always have an excuse,
"it wasn't illegal at that time..."

Pettiite, Mr. Holy man with his bullspit - "I only took it to recover faster so I can do my job..."
What a tool.
Yeah right...you all cheated and the few that may have not looked the other way.
Wonder why Piazza has had so many injuries preventing him from hitting homers like he used to? What about David Ortiz, Mr. Holier than thou???
Both have been speculated as users for their injuries and ailments can be the result of HGH use.

The Mets have a guy, David Wright who I highly doubt has ever taken anything and I feel bad for guys like him who should be the face of baseball but they get the shaft thanks to everyone else's ego and greed.

Baseball is dead to me. Ok, so when the Yanks start doing well, I like every other moron may just start watching again. Maybe.

:bag:
:dontknow: :goofy2:

STEVE AT LEAST YOU'RE HONEST :thumbsup: :yes:

You mean why would a mid 30's year old catcher start to slow down after catching his whole career the way Piazza did, Johnny Bench did, Thurmon Munson was about to, but Pudge Rodriguez didn't?

I think we know who on that list was juicing...and I doubt it was Piazza.

I wasn't making this a Mets v. Yanks thing. Remember, it was the Mets clubhouse guy getting everything...even for the yanks. He was mlb's cvs for every team that came in to nyc even the al teams.

I just find it funny that Yanks fans will use this as an excuse to clobber a-rod even more, but they fell all over themselves for the "Giambino" despite the fact he never produced for the Yanks and gave a half apology.

After that post, you tout Rock Raines for the HOF? You are aware the nickname Rock came from the fact that he played with viles of cocaine rocks in his back pocket which is why he slid into stolen bases head first, so they wouldn't break.

Yes, lets kill Arod but put a basehead in the HOF.

Sorry, but you have your facts wrong.

Raines was nicknamed "Rock" in Expos' rookie camp because of his physique, and his teammate Warren Cromartie made the name stick in the bigs. The team tried to break Raines in as a second baseman, but he was never a natural infielder ("hands of stone," Cro joked), and Expos manager Dick Williams moved Raines back to the outfield.

If we're going to refer to the Raines record, let's not forget some interesting facts:
* He reached base more times than his contemporary Tony Gwynn, he scored more runs than Gwynn, and had practically the same OBA.
* Every eligible player who reached base as many times as Raines did, and had as high an OBA as he had, is in the Hall of Fame.
* Unlike Gwynn, Raines had insane, demon speed. He had 808 stolen bases and was caught only 146 times---until quite recently, the highest stolen base success rate of any base stealer with at least 300 career steals. And he did that while hitting for power, meaning that a lot of those steals were of third base, not second.
* He has a career fielding percentage of .987.
* He hit the hell out of the ball in the 80s, averaging over .320 over several seaons, he had seven consecutive ASG selections, and won two Series rings as a character player for the Yanks.

And he did all that after publicly acknowledging his cocaine addiction and successfully beating it. Speaking as a person who has watched a close family member do the same thing to great success, how about giving Raines some major freaking credit. There are a ton of athletes who lose their careers and worse to drugs. There are very few who beat their addictions and excel. Paul Molitor comes to mind, and, hey, wait, he's already in the BB HOF.

Unlike A-Rod, Raines never cheated to win a baseball game. No schmuck who took steroids will ever be able to say that.

And, finally, a friendly piece of advice to any fellow Isles fan who might have unkind words for fans of the Expos, Nordiques, Whalers, Jets, Sonics, etc.---take care before you crap on players whose teams are defunct, because you never know, you might well be in the same boat someday.

Only reason you refuse to even consider the notion is because he was a MET.

Every single one of your posts that is baseball related is HIGHLY bias against the yankees.
You never miss an opportunity to
a. bash the yanks
b. defend the Mets

Pudge is a scumbag, he juiced and I have VERY good reason to believe that Piazza did too.
But forgive me, I'm a yankee fan and that's just my bias. Piazza's muscle mass broke down
and a few years from now when He, Jeter, Ortiz, Ramirez and many others are exposed I hope you remember this post. I grew up in washington heights as a child, Piazza trained in DR with some buds and came back 20-25 lbs of muscle better long before joining your Mets back in his early dodger days. Had some great seasons following his lanky mlb debut. Classy guy. But he trained with scumbags in DR. Bench is in a league of his own.
Evil empire fan strikes again. Damn those Yankee fans who dare make stuff up about the precious Mets or former mets eh?

:P

I4C, aside from aroid, jeter piazza etc...they are all guilty IMO.
They all lie to protect the MLBPA and their profits.
F em all.