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Title: Light bar-Can the battery operate them???
Description: I just heard that it can't


Dragonryder - February 11, 2008 06:29 PM (GMT)
I just read somewhere that the electrical system on the GV250 will not operate light bars. I read that the charging system is not sufficient enough to handle them with the headlight. Does anyone know anything about this? I was hoping to mount some on my bike. Would it work better if I just wired them through their own switch and used them during cruising instead of wiring through the headlight harness and having them come on when I start the bike? I do a lot of city riding.



Thanks for any help. :ok: :ok: :ok:

patsparks - February 11, 2008 11:41 PM (GMT)
I don't think the headlight is powered from the battery but is powered directly from the alternator which is why there is no headlight when the engine isn't spinning.

I can't see Hyosung selling extra lights as an accessory if the charge system can't cope.

Big Tone - February 12, 2008 12:33 AM (GMT)
With my GV650 the headlight does come on once the ignition is turned on. My understanding is that the extra lights are normally wired into the high beam side of the switch and would not therefore be on during normal daytime driving but would come into force at night when you flick to high beam. Could be an Aussie thing.

patsparks - February 12, 2008 12:41 AM (GMT)
Your GV650 is wired different to mine Tone, I have no head or tail lights until the engine is running.

gvcruiser - February 12, 2008 01:17 AM (GMT)
I had my light bar wired in to the high beams (in the USA) because I drive during the day with my high beams on. I have had no problems, but I ride at 7,000 RPM on average and I plug my bike in to the Battery Tender every day. My 2 cents... B)

Big Tone - February 12, 2008 01:49 AM (GMT)
Depending on the wattage of the lamps I would have thought that high beam and driving lights during day time hours would still be a little bright for oncoming traffic. Maybe because you guys in The US drive on the wrong side of the road it does not have such an impact!

Dragonryder - February 12, 2008 03:21 AM (GMT)
I like the idea of hooking them up to the highbeam switch. That would be a good idea. Thanks for the idea gvcruiser. If I'm riding through town with traffic at low rpms, I would have my dims on anyways. That would solve my problem coming up with another switch and having to worry about turning it off when I get off the bike. I may go with that.

Thanks guys. :bow: I really like the looks of the lightbar, I think it belongs on this bike and I think your right patsparks, surely Hyosung wouldn't sell the accessory if it was going to create problems for them or the bike owner. I think the lightbar is going to be my next big purchase. :ok:

Have a good one and ride safe. :D :biker1:

Y2J - February 13, 2008 07:42 AM (GMT)
I'm pretty sure I have no lights until the engine runs as well....have to check when I get home now!

Big Tone - February 13, 2008 08:15 AM (GMT)
Gee you Guys really had me thinking that maybe my lights did not come on until the engine fired, I have just been into the garage and checked the headlamp does come on when the ignition is in the on position and no engine running. Pat, my GV is a 2007 Silver one, maybe it is only the blue ones that need the engine running??

Famous quote; "I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken!!!" :banana: :banana: :banana:

pops - February 13, 2008 12:37 PM (GMT)
:old: I have not had experence with one of these light bars but other things I have been told did not work turned out to be they were not hooked up correctly to start with. There for it was immedetly the fault of the assecory. I am sure that the difference in weather the lights come on with the GV's is the color of the bike.

skiing49er - February 14, 2008 02:29 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dragonryder @ Feb 11 2008, 09:21 PM)
I like the idea of hooking them up to the highbeam switch.  That would be a good idea.  Thanks for the idea gvcruiser.  If I'm riding through town with traffic at low rpms, I would have my dims on anyways.  That would solve my problem coming up with another switch and having to worry about turning it off when I get off the bike.  I may go with that.

Thanks guys. :bow:  I really like the looks of the lightbar, I think it belongs on this bike and I think your right patsparks, surely Hyosung wouldn't sell the accessory if it was going to create problems for them or the bike owner.  I think the lightbar is going to be my next big purchase. :ok:

Have a good one and ride safe. :D  :biker1:

You might pick up a few hints here.

Although Kymco offers a light bar for the Venox, the charging system is not able to keep up with the extra drain.

2-50 watt lamps = 100watts / 12volts = 8 1/3amps

Also, the factory headlight wiring may not be capable of carrying the additional load.

By adding an additional lighting circuit and switching it with the hi beams via a 12 volt relay, you can avoid overloading the lighting system and save your battery for those times when add'l light is critical.

Dave - February 14, 2008 09:45 AM (GMT)
I thought I would put my two cents worth in as well, my GV650 has a modified set of the GV250 running lights. When I got them from Richard they came complete with its own wiring harness incorporating a fuse holder and weather proof switch which has an adhesive pad so you can stick it just about anywhere on the bike. The lightbar is very easy to fit and wire in, the lights themselves are too bright to run continuously unless the bike has its high beam on, otherwise its upsets the cage drivers too much. Initially I was going to wire my lights to the high beam switch but in city its bit of an overkill, the only time I use mine is mainly in rural situations. So when it was time to wire it all in I decided to use the full harness that came with the lights, except I now have the new light switch assembly from XChoppers that Lunk located. To this day I have not had any electrical problems and it looks good, so basically Im happy that I have put them on my bike. And since they are really meant for the GV250 they will be great on your bike as well. :banana: :evilgrin1:

Dragonryder - February 14, 2008 12:44 PM (GMT)
Hey Dave, I really like the way they look on your bike. They look like they were made for the GV650. :ok: I'm really looking forward to putting them on. I have to wait until next month to order them but hopefully we will start getting warmer weather so I can try them out.

Hey skiing 49er, the other items you mention, do you know if they are included with Richards set or do I need to purchase them? i.e. the 12 volt relay. Not exactly sure what that is.

When you ride do you notice them getting brighter when you throttle it up and dimmer when you throttle down or stop? Just curious.

This is really helping me out, thank you for your input.

Have a good one and ride safe. :D :biker1:

Big Tone - February 19, 2008 09:21 PM (GMT)
I have just picked up a GV250 lightbar off ebay here in Australia, $110.00aud delivered. will post some photos when done. Was really impressed with the look of Dave's light bar set up so decided to copy!!!

Dragonryder - February 21, 2008 06:37 PM (GMT)
Hey BigTone, I agree. I really like the way it looks on Dave'e bike. When you get it, let me know how you wired it up and what you think of it. How it works, ect.



Have a good one and ride safe. :D :biker1:

Dragonryder - March 3, 2008 05:13 PM (GMT)
Hey BigTone, Have you made any progress with the light bar hook-up? Just wondering. I have ordered my light bar from LCC and need to get the lights. I think I'm going through the high beam switch.

Does anyone know if I will need to add a fuse or anything to do a direct hook-up to the high beam switch???

Thanks for any help. :D

Big Tone - March 3, 2008 11:35 PM (GMT)
Dragonryder,

I installed the lightbar on the weekend. As I said I bought the bar second hand from ebay. The bar arrived with a single wire coming from the driving lights, I threaded these wires through the front forks and into the back of the headlamp. I crimped the two wires from the lamps together and then used a joining clamp to connect the driving lights to the positive wire of the high beam. This means that the driving lights are only operable with the light switch is in the high beam position. The neagtive side of the circuit is created using the common ground through the chassis and up into the lamp holder. I did not use a fuse in the circuit and there is no apparent change to the light intensity from idle to high revs.
Photo's to follow!!!

Dave - March 3, 2008 11:43 PM (GMT)
Im looking forward to see these photo's Tony. :evilgrin1:, and for that matter I'm looking forward to seeing the end result of yours too Dragonryder. :ok:

Dragonryder - March 4, 2008 12:22 AM (GMT)
Awesome, that is exactly what I needed to know. Thank you Big Tone. :ok: :ok: :ok: I'm looking forward to your photos. :ok:

larrycook - March 4, 2008 04:41 PM (GMT)
On my 2003 GV250 there is a switch on the Right handlebar that is not used in the US. In asia it is used to turn the headlight on or off. I traced the wires back under the front of the tank and used the switch to operate my light bar lights. I do not turn them on until I am running down the road, and I turn them off before I stop. I have had no problems.

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Dragonryder - March 4, 2008 05:10 PM (GMT)
On my '08 GV250 I don't think I have that switch. I've had that phantom switch mentioned to me once before. Don't see one on my bike???

gw555 - March 4, 2008 07:39 PM (GMT)

Big Tone - March 4, 2008 08:27 PM (GMT)
Looks like the photo's have disapeared, the link does not work for me!!

obxbiker - March 4, 2008 10:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gw555 @ Mar 4 2008, 03:39 PM)
Link to photos etc : http://z11.invisionfree.com/HyosungCruiser...?showtopic=6192

Works for me, its now located on the GV650 board.




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