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Title: Mi-24 research


Avimimus - August 19, 2007 10:58 PM (GMT)
Hello,

I have been gathering information on the Mi-24 (and other helicopter systems). I would like to pass on some of this material to those developing improved hinds for this sim. To start:

While hinds were largely immune to small arms and flown fearlessly they were not entirely invulnerable. Many military doctrines (eg. West German) state that any weapon is to be used against slow, low flying aircraft. It improves playability to have a hind version that is vulnerable to small arms.

Hinds in Afganistan often carried heavy machine guns and grenades for self defense. They also carried extra rockets so that the crew could partially reload their pods in the field.

Most Russian rocket pods have very high dispersion. This is often overlooked but very important for accurate modeling.

It would be nice to see hinds with doorgunners, 10 x 100kg bomb payloads, rocket dispersion, and a few other weapons in the future.

Some references that may be of use

Updated weapons information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mi-24

A discussion on rocket dispersion:
http://www.simhq.com/forum....2250210

Pictures of the door gunner positions:
http://www.zajc.pl/afganistan.html

Video footage of the gunner positions in use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....search=

More rare footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....search=

Mi-35/24PN footage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....search=

Some reading:
http://www.faqs.org/docs/air/avhind1.html

An excellent set of articles (good weapon info can be found in other parts of this site):
http://www.airwar.ru/ah.html

Some drawings:
http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw_c.html

P.S. the Hind naturally looses some lift due to the stub wings when it is hovering. It peaks in forward flight where the wing anhedral easily pulls the helicopter into turns. There is a risk of the rotor striking the tail during abrupt maneuvers.

ObmaR - August 20, 2007 05:06 AM (GMT)
Thanks for the info. I am busy with the version used in Angola by the Cubans.

Guest - September 10, 2007 05:55 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Avimimus @ Aug 19 2007, 10:58 PM)
Hello,

I have been gathering information on the Mi-24 (and other helicopter systems). I would like to pass on some of this material to those developing improved hinds for this sim.


There is a publication circulating at least in South Africa, called African Armed Forces Journal.

If you are interested to subscribe, please write to:

Military Publications (pty) Ltd
105 Kingsgate
130 Louis Botha Avenue
2198 Yeoville
RSA

aafjrsa@absamail.co.za

The june issue front pic is a MI where the montage of ATE programmes is done in South Africa.

Lots of info, and if you speak nicely to the gentleman, he might be able to help with pictural info for the game.

I will let him know about your site.

ObmaR - September 10, 2007 06:09 PM (GMT)
Thank you for the info. I will be emailing the gentleman as I am busy with a MI 24 for the FAPLA Units, with Forca Aeria Angolana Camo Pattern (circa 1980)




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